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    I'm going to start working on a utility to handle the signing of coaches and personnel. It probably won't be very sophisticated, but I'd like some input on how much weight, if any should be given to the following factors:

    Position (Manager vs HC, etc)
    Length of Contract
    Total $
    $ per year
    Team level (BLB, AAA, etc)
    Team location

    Anything I'm forgetting?

  • #2
    I'm also considering giving teams the option to hire away coaches from other teams as long as they are giving them a promotion.

    Thoughts on how this should work? Should teams receive draft pick compensation for losing personnel?

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    • #3
      Everything from your first post sounds good.

      I like hiring away from other teams. I personally don't think draft picks need to be given.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by jmw1137
        I like hiring away from other teams. I personally don't think draft picks need to be given.
        What if they are under contract? At the least, the signing teams should have to buy out the contract.

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        • #5
          agreed. Draft picks aren't needed, but buying out the contract is fine.

          Does anyone really know if coaches help or not? That'd be awesome if they'd tell us if its an advantage or not to have great coaches compared to a cheaper priced, less skilled coach.
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          • #6
            They do have an effect, but not a huge one. Markus doesn't like to tell us to what extent.

            Can anybody offer opinions on how you'd weight the above criteria. The plan is to assign a weight to each, have the utility calculate it for each team making him an offer and use these weights to determine the best offer.

            So Team A might offer a lot of money to be the AAA manager, but if Team B offers a BLB managing job he would take that instead.

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            • #7
              I would say that being in the majors or high minors should be the highest priority, followed by money or perhaps longevity.

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              • #8
                I'd go with Total $, then level, and then position.

                I think that way, the teams that really want to spend money on coaches will be able to get their guy most of the time.
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                • #9
                  Hm, I think it should go level, money/length, position then lastly location.

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                  • #10
                    I think, in terms of weighting, Managing positions should outrank the lesser positions of the level above.

                    For example, let's say Single A is this:

                    Manager -- 3
                    Hitting Coach -- 1
                    Pitching Coach -- 1

                    Double AA should be something like:

                    Manager -- 4
                    Pitching Coach -- 2
                    Hitting Coach -- 2

                    That's operating under the general rule of thumb that all coaches eventually want to be Managers. So, I think, that way folks would rather be THE MAN at Single A, then a Coach at AA and so far up the line.

                    Just my opinion.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Coach Signing Utility

                      Originally posted by Andrew
                      I'm going to start working on a utility to handle the signing of coaches and personnel. It probably won't be very sophisticated, but I'd like some input on how much weight, if any should be given to the following factors:

                      Position (Manager vs HC, etc)
                      Length of Contract
                      Total $
                      $ per year
                      Team level (BLB, AAA, etc)
                      Team location

                      Anything I'm forgetting?
                      IMO

                      Level
                      Position
                      $/year
                      Total $
                      Length of Contract
                      Location

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                      • #12
                        I decided for ease of use to nix length of contract (contracts will have to be whatever length they're asking for), location and total $.

                        Here's what I came up with that seems to work OK:

                        - Start with salary per year offered

                        Modifiers:
                        BLB level: 1.50
                        AAA: 1.00
                        AA: 0.75
                        A: 0.50
                        Manager: 1.25
                        Pitching Coach: 1.00
                        Hitting Coach: 1.00
                        Bench Coach: 0.75
                        Out of Position: 0.75

                        Thoughts?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Andrew
                          I decided for ease of use to nix length of contract (contracts will have to be whatever length they're asking for), location and total $.

                          Here's what I came up with that seems to work OK:

                          - Start with salary per year offered

                          Modifiers:
                          BLB level: 1.50
                          AAA: 1.00
                          AA: 0.75
                          A: 0.50
                          Manager: 1.25
                          Pitching Coach: 1.00
                          Hitting Coach: 1.00
                          Bench Coach: 0.75
                          Out of Position: 0.75

                          Thoughts?
                          Looks good to me.

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                          • #14
                            Looks good to me as well.

                            Are we waiting for this before we start signing coaches/scouts?
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                            • #15
                              I already thought I replied to you somewhere else... (must not have), but I know I've already signed some coaches during free agency.
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