SIM COMPLETE - 1998 - SIM 5

[Clay]

If I have the ability to award a team a pick that they are justified in receiving, I'm going to award it. I track it. The owner went through the effort to let me know he got the email. I'm giving it.

Call it a perk for the more active owners... Call it what you will.

If someone wants to propose a logical hardstop and how to handle picks that are awarded (since I have to do something with them during the worst SIM of the year) and I'm up for it.

[Jake]

Can anyone find the old FA comp trackers other than 1996?

[Carlos]

If I have the ability to award a team a pick that they are justified in receiving, I'm going to award it. I track it. The owner went through the effort to let me know he got the email. I'm giving it.

Call it a perk for the more active owners... Call it what you will.

If someone wants to propose a logical hardstop and how to handle picks that are awarded (since I have to do something with them during the worst SIM of the year) and I'm up for it.

I get Jake's beef because, hey, he didn't get a draft pick that could have been worth something.

But, I think it makes sense that if we are able to move forward and a change is possible then it should be made.

I think the real issue is that no one really knew this change had been made.

[Carlos]

Can anyone find the old FA comp trackers other than 1996?

I don't think they exist. That was part of the reason why Clay created them.

There was once upon a time that guys would write to him saying Player X was signed, I should get compensated and there was no real record of whether that was true or not.

edit:
92-93
http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/foru...t=compensation

[Jake]

I don't think they exist. That was part of the reason why Clay created them.

There was once upon a time that guys would write to him saying Player X was signed, I should get compensated and there was no real record of whether that was true or not.

edit:
92-93
http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/foru...t=compensation

Yeah, I found that, but not 94/95/97.

Edit... found 94.

[Clay]

The main reason I started tracking it was because there were owners who think they deserved COMP pick, yet they never even offered ARB. That's why I started going through. It's a multi-step process.

1) Potential FA Worth
2) Check exports during ARB SIM to confirm that Owner actually offered ARB
3) Track contracts
4) Ping against Draft Order since in-game is broken and slots all in one SUP Round.

It's a nightmare.

[Jake]

I get Jake's beef because, hey, he didn't get a draft pick that could have been worth something.

But, I think it makes sense that if we are able to move forward and a change is possible then it should be made.

I think the real issue is that no one really knew this change had been made.

First, so anyone who can't tell or doesn't know me well enough knows, in the end, I could really care less about this. Won't affect my view of the league or take on anyone here at all. Doesn't affect me in 98, I love this league, I love everybody, yada yada. Truly.

But yes, admittedly, my main "emotion" from any of this is from the fact I feel like I had the exact same thing happen, in the new FA Comp era, and had an opposite ruling. But, to be fair, I've searched around for 15 minutes and can't find the thread I'm thinking about.

Secondly, as you mentioned, yes, I find it "unfair" that a rule like this is changed without any post, warning, or declaration... or whatever. It's a "big" enough rule that people were asking about it earlier this year, it's been addressed in the past at the very top of a FA compensation thread, and the last known writing/posting of it said that the cut off was 45 days in game before the draft. I'm not one who cares who is on the secret council, I don't think everything must be brought to a vote, whatever... but something like this, that is specifically being changed, should be posted. If the new game tracks it better, if Clay tracks it better, whatever it was... should have been announced. Furthermore, seems like when it came up a couple sims ago would have been a perfect time to address it.

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But, let's say I truly am crazy, I never had a similar situation, and everyone disagrees with me that it should have been posted, and it's cool to add them this late. Extremely possible.

Then I strongly suggest the cutoff date is the official, real life start of the draft. By adding in sandwich picks after the draft starts, you're literally changing the value of every single remaining pick in the draft - albeit only slightly. I'm too lazy to look up if any third round picks were traded during this draft, but, it's possible, and if there were any, they're worth less than they were 90 minutes ago.

For example, let's say I'm sitting at 2.22 with 4 guys on my board I like fairly equally. Pat, at 3.1, wants to trade up and with only 1 Type A sandwich pick in the draft, I feel like I can move down to 3.1 and at least ONE of my guys will still be there.

But, then the sim is run, two type A free agents sign, two more supplementary picks are added, and now my 3.1 pick is not only less valuable, but gives me no guarantee at a guy I wanted, which is why I made the trade to begin with.

Is that situation probable? No. Possible? Very.

Once the draft order is set, and the utility is turned on... I really think it needs to be set in stone.

[Spectre]

I agree with Jake.

I'm with Jake too- actually, that's why I asked that question in that thread (I was curious). The rules cited above seem to be clear about the timing of being awarded compensatory picks as well.

[Delandis]

Cops always causing problems in the hood, man.

[Matt]

I'm not the one who signed the player. This is all Denver's fault!

I'll take the pick next season if it's that big of a deal to the masses.

[umd]

I'm not the one who signed the player. This is all Denver's fault!

I'll take the pick next season if it's that big of a deal to the masses.

Like I said, I'm good with whatever is decided as long as it creates a rule so that it's consistent for the future.

Jim Newlin should have been signed earlier anyway! He's a hero to Hartford and Baltimore. He was traded back and forth like 3 times.

[Clay]

Simple solution. SIMs stop when we reach the draft date. We take a week to knock out the draft. Then return to SIM schedule.

Everyone is happy.

Put it to a vote this off-season. Done and done.

[Plastic]

I don't think we need to stop the sims. We just need to pick a date and stay with it going into the future.

If the FA isn't signed by the start of the draft then they weren't too hot a commodity to begin with to deserve a pick. Just my .02

[Clay]

I don't think we need to stop the sims. We just need to pick a date and stay with it going into the future.

I have to place a guy in the spot if it generates. I can't add picks in future rounds.

It just makes the most sense if the current system isn't acceptable that we just stop the SIMs for a couple days.

OR...

Now that the CAP is gone and the Media was level (at least until this off-season)... maybe Sandwich rounds need to go away?

[Clay]

OR....

We could put those picks at the very end of the draft. Really no value there, but... I have to have players to put in those spots.