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The financials are right, but you won't see a definitive number until the new fiscal year after options and arbitration are complete. With arbitration, your financials are just an estimate at the moment.Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17
IL Champs '13 '16 '19
Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
Last Call '08 (Manning)
New Brew '08 (Pulido)
Desert Legends
#33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)
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Thanks guys, appreciate your input, unless Bradz says something different I will wait until the 1st of January to ad those seats
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Was torn , really would of been good with UMD winning it so I just didn't know how to feel.
Great year UMD(Again), the good news for you is your always going to be throwing your hat in the ring with your deep organization you built. No worries there. I know you don't want to hear this but yes you will someday take the Cup home.
As for Pawtucket.....I would say the deals for OF Sanchez, RP Burrows and SP Salzman without giving up very much was the key to this season. Understanding we have a core group you still need the right fit players and everything just went right. Lol, perhaps being away from the league 1.5 seasons brought a little focus?
Now for 2017...... been a very very very good run and from here on out this decade anything else is simply gravy. That does NOT mean we crash and rebuild as we continue to try to increase our overall team history %, but with all the core players now 30+ (Except Mcdade) losing another top player in Haraguchi to free agency were going to have to be very smart with our trades. We will have some money for free agency coming up especially with a deal lurking and the $5 million bonus, but it won't be enough to land an impact player more less fit players like 2B Ortiz or maybe a middle RP. Looking at my roster, its HEAVY a trade based team especially with pitching:
Pitchers
Robillard, Reeves, Salzman, Morikawa, Pearsall, Burrows
Hitters
Herrington, Sanchez, Mason, Haraguchi
Whatever happens, its going to be fun! Glad to be back.
PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Playoff money note:
Sure it increased a TON, but so did revenue sharing so its more a boon for the low market teams. Pretty sure we've never shelled out 7+ million before. My dear god.
PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Tell me about it +$5M...Originally posted by funclown View PostPlayoff money note:
Sure it increased a TON, but so did revenue sharing so its more a boon for the low market teams. Pretty sure we've never shelled out 7+ million before. My dear god.
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I made no money from the playoffs.Originally posted by funclown View PostPlayoff money note:
Sure it increased a TON, but so did revenue sharing so its more a boon for the low market teams. Pretty sure we've never shelled out 7+ million before. My dear god.
Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17
IL Champs '13 '16 '19
Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
Last Call '08 (Manning)
New Brew '08 (Pulido)
Desert Legends
#33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)
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Looks good on the balance sheet for fiscal 2016, but then 2017 comes rolling out you lose basically all of it. Nice learning lesson. Almost promotes if your gonna be bad, build your minors, don't invest in your BLB team, sit back and get paid.Originally posted by umd View PostI made no money from the playoffs.
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Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Your cash = $7,735,902 for 2017 (shows up as Opening Balance on Accounting Tab)Originally posted by Sharkn20 View PostThanks guys, appreciate your input, unless Bradz says something different I will wait until the 1st of January to ad those seats
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Understood then, I can post my seat expansion.Originally posted by BradZ View PostYour cash = $7,735,902 for 2017 (shows up as Opening Balance on Accounting Tab)
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How do team's with a payroll of $10-15m getting $7m of revenue sharing? It might be time for a payroll floor or an adjustment to revenue sharing. They're not broke, they're cheap.
Why are we punishing profitable winning teams when everyone was in equal financial footing at the start?Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17
IL Champs '13 '16 '19
Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
Last Call '08 (Manning)
New Brew '08 (Pulido)
Desert Legends
#33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)
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Are we able to include what a rebuilding team throws into Player Development and Scouting into that floor? A portion of it?Originally posted by umd View PostHow do team's with a payroll of $10-15m getting $7m of revenue sharing? It might be time for a payroll floor or an adjustment to revenue sharing. They're not broke, they're cheap.
Why are we punishing profitable winning teams when everyone was in equal financial footing at the start?
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The sucky thing here UMD is they don't look profitable.Originally posted by umd View PostHow do team's with a payroll of $10-15m getting $7m of revenue sharing? It might be time for a payroll floor or an adjustment to revenue sharing. They're not broke, they're cheap.
Why are we punishing profitable winning teams when everyone was in equal financial footing at the start?
Then again its fog of war so not sure how much PD & Scouting is associated with it. Perhaps cap those instead (20 ml PD, 10 ml scouting)???PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Punish a team that's rebuilding?Originally posted by funclown View PostThe sucky thing here UMD is they don't look profitable.
Then again its fog of war so not sure how much PD & Scouting is associated with it. Perhaps cap those instead (20 ml PD, 10 ml scouting)???
If the money is just sitting there, I can understand wondering what's going on, but Scouting and PD are a real part of the game, and for a rebuilding team, probably more integral than signing a useless Free Agent.
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I was spit balling. Jistic and I use to talk about this all the time. Seems after 15 million (give or take) PD returns really diminishes. Remember PD only makes a true great player great faster its DOES NOT make a bad player become good. He just gets to his potential shittyness faster.Originally posted by Ryan View PostPunish a team that's rebuilding?
If the money is just sitting there, I can understand wondering what's going on, but Scouting and PD are a real part of the game, and for a rebuilding team, probably more integral than signing a useless Free Agent.
Scouting above 10 million really what insight are you gonna get??? Its not like we are on a 1-250 pt scale here.
Its just an idea, nothing more.
Brad is better then me on this , but here is what Toronto did (no judgement just using the best data was have)
98.3 in revenue
32 million on total expenses.
71.3 on PD & Scouting
Then proceeds to lose 5 million dollars. To be thats just not right either.
Kind of makes me wish we did have Intl complex to give people something to throw money at and encourages "rebuilding" teams to keep at least 10 million on hand for signing bonuses IMO.PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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