COMP PICKS

[Whale]

So we've gone all the way around the world twice and we're back to, basically, my original suggestion...

That was fun!!!

Why does your mascots chin look like an ass?

[Clay]

Cause he's talkin' shit?

[Khrog]

I actually think that's a great idea.

I agree, and I think it's definitely something we add next year. I don't think it's really applicable this year since it's the first year of compensation and it's too late to change the rules.

Personally, I think that compensation sucks all the way around. Frankly, with these rules in place, I will be lucky to be able to compete in 10 seasons...possibly longer. The only reason for compensation is to keep the haves being the haves and the have-nots being the have-nots and if I had seen the damned thread then I would have expressed my opinion as such. As it is...now I have to re-download the file because I don't believe that I can afford to pickup a Premium quality talent if my 2nd and 3rd or 2nd and 4th round draft pick will be forfeit.

As it is...I'm just plain pissed that you can't leave the damned rules alone for a season or two.

[Clay]

But how do you feel about it????

[Andrew]

As it is...I'm just plain pissed that you can't leave the damned rules alone for a season or two.

Unfortunately as the game changes, we need to change with it. Not sure what else to tell you

[Khrog]

As it is...I'm just plain pissed that you can't leave the damned rules alone for a season or two.

Unfortunately as the game changes, we need to change with it. Not sure what else to tell you

Usually what NEEDS to happen and I have tons of experience with this kind of environment is that you must make changes and then wait to see what the hell happens and then introduce the next set to be in line with the ultimate goal.

There have been changes...but there hasn't been any waiting.

With this change, frankly, my team WILL wither and WILL remain absolutely shitty for the forseeable future. There is no avoiding it. If I can't sign a top notch free agent then my team will lose over 100 games without fail again this season. With one, I am looking at a 90+ loss season, but I can begin the process of bringing fans back into the ballpark. Without then I have to wait for any number of 4 or 5 players to develop which could take 3 to 5 seasons and then I MAY be able to get over .500.

Since you've consigned my team to the scrap heap with the sudden implementation of this rule, I'm certain that you can understand my frustration.

[Sully]

Guess you can't please everyone...

I just wish everyone would look at what's best for the league, not what's best for their team.

[Whale]

Seriously, I don't comment seriously on here much, but this is getting ridiculous. I'm pretty sure Andrew (and everyone else) has plenty of other things to do in life then devote their time to making all 20 people happy with rules in a ficticious league. If this decision is THAT damning to your life, you should probably consider stepping back, deleting the game from your laptop, throwing your laptop out the window, and taking a step outdoors to the real world.

Not trying to be a dick here, but personally I do this for fun. I like the concept and the challange. Andrew spends enough time on this as is, considering he has a job (kinda, it is the state Gov't), and a pending wedding on the horizon.

My advice to everyone? Stick with what most people said was fine, deal with it for the season, revisit it at the end. If this is too hurtful for your team/life, then we have a full waiting list available.

I'm off my soapbox

[Andrew]

Usually what NEEDS to happen and I have tons of experience with this kind of environment is that you must make changes and then wait to see what the hell happens and then introduce the next set to be in line with the ultimate goal.

If I took this approach, every teams budget would have dropped by about 50% after the first season. There are some pretty drastic changes to the financial system between 2006 and 2007 and changes were absolutely necessary. I'm not just sitting around changing things just for the fuck of changing them.

Bottom line, I gave everyone a chance to chime in and most people chose not to. I've been very up front about every change to the rules; I ask and consider everyones opinion. I don't know what else I can do.

[Khrog]

Guess you can't please everyone...

I just wish everyone would look at what's best for the league, not what's best for their team.

Would you be pleased after you had just set yourself on a strategy to begin climbing back into relevancy only to have a massive setback based on a new rule that would most greatly harm your team? A team that is already the worst in the league with no end in sight, now.

Premium players for my team are few and far between...most being in the minor league system. Certainly none that would be affected by this rule for some time. Frankly this rule should have been announced well in advance at the very minimum and probably not implemented for at least 7-10 seasons in the league.(weed out the initial draft) The only possible outcome of this rule is that the currently stellar teams will have a great boost based on the luck of their starting draft that provided exceptional players to them.

I most certainly am looking at what is best for the league...Some semblance of parity would be best for the league. This rule will produce stagnation and stagnation is the first avenue to death.

[Jim]

To throw another wrench in the mix, you said the game doesn't do sandwich picks (hopefully they'll add it later....hint, hint beta team guys!) but couldn't we do our own sandwich picks outside the game? That way teams don't lose their picks to pick-up FAs but the team losing the FA still gets compensated.

[robster1225]

First of all, how can this be the end of your team?
Can you not make trades? Can you not focus on your farm, and develop talent? If the player you want to sign is good enough, and will pull you out of obscurity, like you make it sound, why not sign him? Will a 2nd and 4th rounder that might not even pan out really be worth that much, if the player is as good as your saying?

Your missing the bigger point here. This is necessary for parody. My team has been used as an example, and i've been fairly successful.

The post was up, when it was just an IDEA. You chose not to respond, so live with the consequences. You only seem to show up on the board every other week anyway, it doesn't surprise me that you missed the thread.

I'm really getting frustrated with people taking this to an extreme level. Let's let it play out. Andrew has done testing, has seeked the opinion of anyone who will listen, and made a decision. This is not bad for the league, even though it may seem so now. Put yourself in my shoes. I'm losing my best player next year, because I have a small market. If compensation doesn't exist than I'll be DAMNED to obscurity.

[Clay]

I just wish everyone would look at what's best for the league, not what's best for their team.

See, now that pisses me off because this whole thread was started under the guise of (a) questions and (b) what's best for the league. In fact, the first person to really be questioned by anyone for having personal motivations was when Jistic was questioned for being AGAINST a rule that would actually benefit his team.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I personally think this thread has been a good open dialogue and people have not come in with a personal agenda. As I stated before my team (as well as Squints) are in a position where we can afford to spend and we have multiple first rounders... it doesn't hurt us nearly as bad as it might other teams.

No one, in my opinion, is trying to make life more difficult for Andrew. People are simply stating opinion and recommendation on things to monitor as we roll into this entirely new season and piece of software.

Damn. I thought it was a great thing that this little thread sparked some good dialogue and input... something I thought Andrew wanted. There have been no demands. No threats. No personal agendas. And, really, no bitching.

[Sully]

Guess you can't please everyone...

I just wish everyone would look at what's best for the league, not what's best for their team.

Would you be pleased after you had just set yourself on a strategy to begin climbing back into relevancy only to have a massive setback based on a new rule that would most greatly harm your team? A team that is already the worst in the league with no end in sight, now.

Premium players for my team are few and far between...most being in the minor league system. Certainly none that would be affected by this rule for some time. Frankly this rule should have been announced well in advance at the very minimum and probably not implemented for at least 7-10 seasons in the league.(weed out the initial draft) The only possible outcome of this rule is that the currently stellar teams will have a great boost based on the luck of their starting draft that provided exceptional players to them.

I most certainly am looking at what is best for the league...Some semblance of parity would be best for the league. This rule will produce stagnation and stagnation is the first avenue to death.

I don't see how a team replacing a star player with a 1st or 2nd round draft pick (usually around 3 years away from the BLB) is going to keep their team competitive. Without any form of compensation, the rich stay rich, and keep winning. The poor lose quality player after quality player, and keep losing. I'm one of those teams. Is it fair that my budget dropped about 14 million with the new financial model? That I was forced to trade away a pitcher with #1 stuff? That I'm going to lose another one of the league's great pitchers next offseason? Tell me exactly how that's going to keep my team a contender?

[Whale]

Let's just lock this thread and move on.

The rules are in place for this season. Revisit it later.