Free Agency of a cap reduced league..

[Nemesis]

http://108.59.255.76/~benelou/ccfl/b...itiongroup=ALL

[Aston]

That's interesting.

I wonder why cap reduced leagues are so rare? There must be a reason this practice isn't more commonly adopted.

I'm a bit resistant to the idea just because I'm slow to change (at least in a radical way like this). But I do see this getting some good reviews.

[Nemesis]

That's interesting.

I wonder why cap reduced leagues are so rare? There must be a reason this practice isn't more commonly adopted.

I'm a bit resistant to the idea just because I'm slow to change (at least in a radical way like this). But I do see this getting some good reviews.

Heh, not sure. Ben might be the only one to possess the tool to do that to the game file cap change.

[Guest]

Wow, a proper free agency. I'm all for this cap thing.

[Guest]

haha I love the 85/85 undrafted center!

[Aston]

How is that *possible*?

[Rip Murdock]

I've seen similar free agency pools in leagues without a silly fix like this. Close to 60% of the free agents (9+ years) are aging veterans who will not help struggling teams (or inexperienced owners) in any significant way.

This so-called "fix" is just another way for savvy owners to take advantage of less experienced owners. If anyone thinks this will even the playing field, they are mistaken.

[Guest]

I would argue that it would make it harder for the savvy owners to keep their stud players without making significant sacrifices in other areas. Looks like a pretty solid setup to me and I don't usually do a whole lot in FA besides try and fill depth. A class like this appearing in a league without the cap fix is most likely the result of lack of active owners, because it just doesn't happen otherwise. I remain very interested in the possibility that I might have to cut a guy here and there and make hard decisions with my roster more often. Theres no way I could maintain the type of depth I have now in a league like that.

[Guest]

I would argue that it would make it harder for the savvy owners to keep their stud players without making significant sacrifices in other areas. Looks like a pretty solid setup to me and I don't usually do a whole lot in FA besides try and fill depth. A class like this appearing in a league without the cap fix is most likely the result of lack of active owners, because it just doesn't happen otherwise. I remain very interested in the possibility that I might have to cut a guy here and there and make hard decisions with my roster more often. Theres no way I could maintain the type of depth I have now in a league like that.

All I'm hearing is Nutah took my player in the draft. ;)

[Koz]

haha I love the 85/85 undrafted center!

That center was part of the game's original player pool, so good undrafted players weren't uncommon. You will find them in any leagues that doesn't begin with a gigantic dispersal draft.

[Guest]

Heh.. Robinette was hardly mine, but damn I wanted him bad. Thats ok though. I may end up doing pretty well anyway if the chips fall right.

[Aston]

I've seen similar free agency pools in leagues without a silly fix like this. Close to 60% of the free agents (9+ years) are aging veterans who will not help struggling teams (or inexperienced owners) in any significant way.

This so-called "fix" is just another way for savvy owners to take advantage of less experienced owners. If anyone thinks this will even the playing field, they are mistaken.

I see the logic here, and generally think unless we see a big reason for it, there isn't a reason to make the change. "Not having enough big-time FAs" doesn't really qualify in my opinion.

To play a little devil's advocate, it does appear to be pretty easy to keep anyone I want to keep on the roster right now. So the challenge of it would be kinda fun...but not if it's the new owners who are losing most of the talent into the FA pool.

[Nemesis]

I would argue that it would make it harder for the savvy owners to keep their stud players without making significant sacrifices in other areas. Looks like a pretty solid setup to me and I don't usually do a whole lot in FA besides try and fill depth. A class like this appearing in a league without the cap fix is most likely the result of lack of active owners, because it just doesn't happen otherwise. I remain very interested in the possibility that I might have to cut a guy here and there and make hard decisions with my roster more often. Theres no way I could maintain the type of depth I have now in a league like that.

Last season, Ben had to basically gut his Atlanta team due to the cap crunch, but kept all his core players. I think he mentioned this in FOFC in one of his posts. He was able to trade his guys though, I can't remember which of his guys went to the FA pool.

I had a decision to make last offseason as well. I had a few guys who were in the last year of their contract, and I had to decide on selling them off, keeping them for the last season of their contract and let them hit the open market (but keeping them so I could compete because there wasn't replacement talent on the market). I kept them, and now I have a 70 rated TE who's now a FA, and a pretty decent CB who's a FA also.

Probably not the most efficient way for me to do it, but hey, you live and learn.

[Aston]

Do you guys think that gutting the salary cap growth value would be an alternative solution, or at least a step in the right direction? The cap squeeze will begin to be felt, without an artificially applied penalty. Could take a few seasons. Not sure when our next cap rise is due for, but we could change it to 0 instead of (28,80). And thereafter keep it at a low value.

[Nemesis]

Do you guys think that gutting the salary cap growth value would be an alternative solution, or at least a step in the right direction? The cap squeeze will begin to be felt, without an artificially applied penalty. Could take a few seasons. Not sure when our next cap rise is due for, but we could change it to 0 instead of (28,80). And thereafter keep it at a low value.

If I recall correctly, there was discussion of this at FOFC. I think the final determination was that changing the cap increase wouldn't workout.