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  • 2022 FA 1.1 SIM Complete - Next SIM Tuesday 12/06

    http://simgamingnetwork.com/osfl/lea...t_12_05_11.zip

    Next SIM Tuesday 12/06. Files due by 6pm ET.

    FA SIM 1.2 is next up on the list. Let the games begin. Well, not the actual games, but the financial ones!


    Please note the results of the two rule change polls that are now closed. These changes take effect immediately

    1) There are no longer restrictions on player contract renegotiations. You are free to renegotiate with any player on your roster that is currently under contract.

    2) The Grey Sheet rule has been replaced with the new 3 year minimum contract for any FA during FA 1.X.

    Let me know if anyone has any questions about these new changes. They are now in place for this 2022 season.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by BradZ View Post

    2) The Grey Sheet rule has been replaced with the new 3 year minimum contract for any FA during FA 1.X.
    I don't understand this rule.

    If I want a crappy 30/30 guy for the 50th man on my roster, I have to offer him 3 years????
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Clay View Post
      I don't understand this rule.

      If I want a crappy 30/30 guy for the 50th man on my roster, I have to offer him 3 years????
      Yes. But just offer him 3 years, all salary, no bonus. Then if you cut him, there's no cap penalty
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      • #4
        That's a ridiculous rule.

        I don't understand how this is an improvement.
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        • #5
          It's not hurting you against the cap, so what's the problem exactly?
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          • #6
            It's unnecessary steps that complicate a simple process. I'll be honest... if a guy wants a 1 year $500,000 deal... that's probably what I'm going to give him. If they have to be undone, so be it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Clay View Post
              That's a ridiculous rule.

              I don't understand how this is an improvement.
              A lot of leagues use it nowadays because it is easy to manage.

              You can use FA2 post-draft to offer 1-yr deals to roster fillers.
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              • #8
                Yeah, signing roster filler before FA1 is over is kind of pointless anyway. This is the time to pick up guys who fill holes, not fill out the roster. Get starters, return men, special teamers, backup QBs, etc. The shitty dudes will still be there when FA 2 rolls around.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kingfc22 View Post
                  A lot of leagues use it nowadays because it is easy to manage.

                  You can use FA2 post-draft to offer 1-yr deals to roster fillers.
                  I havent seen a league that doesn't use the 3 year rule in FA 1.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JulioRiddols View Post
                    I havent seen a league that doesn't use the 3 year rule in FA 1.
                    Same here. And it's rougher on the commish when it's limited to grey sheet players.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Clay View Post
                      It's unnecessary steps that complicate a simple process. I'll be honest... if a guy wants a 1 year $500,000 deal... that's probably what I'm going to give him. If they have to be undone, so be it.
                      Clay, the reason for this rule is that the good players don't get 1 year, $30 million offers. Side effect is also that the really good ones will get 3 year, $60 million offers instead of having to pony up 5 year, $100 million ones per the GS rule. Just filters out the crazy and the damaging.

                      The advantage over the Grey Sheet rule is that the GS rule is a bitch for people to check, and while the GS is *probably* the same for everybody, the amount of years players asked for definitely varied for different teams.

                      If a player is asking for $500k for one year, then offer him minimum salary for three years with $30k or however little bonus you can get away with. Pretty much the same thing. Or wait til FA2. I was thinking of any way we could have some exceptions to the rule, but any exceptions and it's no longer easy to check...

                      Last point, 1-year deals aren't much good anyway. Unless it's for a year 2-3 player who will become a RFA, anybody signed to a one year deal will just be a guy you'd have to bid on in UFA again the next year.

                      I am in a league (CyFL) that has no rules or restrictions on FA at all. That is kind of a pure, simple solution, but it could really be exploited with the one year or two year deals on stars. But the 3-year rule seems to be the most common one.
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                      • #12
                        Lastly I think we should just see how FA1 and FA2 play out, and keep the poll threads around for discussion and some examples or maybe have a new one.

                        I can think of one advantage for everybody, I would have had to seriously shell out to get QB Britt Meyer and WR James Harden last year. Under the GS rule, they both only asked for two years.

                        I can think of 1 year, $10 million deals and 1 year, $25 million deals thrown around in the CyFL, but during Late FA, on guys like RFAs that stopped being restricted or rookie free agents. That's the kind of craziness you want to minimize and without some kind of rule, it would be all over the place in Early FA.
                        Last edited by Aston; 12-06-2011, 12:29 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JulioRiddols View Post
                          Yeah, signing roster filler before FA1 is over is kind of pointless anyway. This is the time to pick up guys who fill holes, not fill out the roster. Get starters, return men, special teamers, backup QBs, etc. The shitty dudes will still be there when FA 2 rolls around.
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                          • #14
                            As a thought, it might be worth a mass email to ownership to remind them of this stage. Providing Brad is privvy to email addresses.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Clay View Post
                              It's unnecessary steps that complicate a simple process. I'll be honest... if a guy wants a 1 year $500,000 deal... that's probably what I'm going to give him. If they have to be undone, so be it.
                              I get where you're coming from. Afterall, I'm the one that originally authored a Hybrid option when we first started talking about making the switch from the Grey Sheet. There simply wasn't much support for it.

                              I personally think it makes sense to be able to offer a player a 1 year deal if that's what he's asking for. I don't think it would be difficult to come up with a $$ threshold ($2mil, $3mil, whatever) that was an acceptable $ amount for 1 year deals. No star would be swayed to the 1 yr deal at that amount. Everyone builds their roster differently and some people may feel more comfortable getting their filler/50-53rd type guys early in the process. I get that.

                              However, this isn't my league. I simply push buttons and make bad draft picks. If there were support for such an option I'd be more than happy to go along with it, but when it was originally brought up it garnered as much support as Jon Hunstman's Presidential bid.
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