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  • NC Playoff picture 2031!

    Now with its own thread! (Because a playoff race this good deserves better than slumming around on page two of that other thread)

    Coming into week 15 only all four divisions in the NC were still in play and 13 of the 16 teams were still fighting for a playoff spot. Although Gainesville's thin playoff hopes were kept alive only because I was simply too lazy to check every possible outcome for the three games remaining for the 10 or so teams ahead of them. After week 15 only one division had been decided and 10 teams are still playing for something more than just pride.

    NC NORTH

    Another week, another loss by the Totems. That 10-1 start must be feeling so far away by now. All they need to do is win one more game and the division is theirs, but they just haven't been able to get it done. Could this be the true revenge of Brent Colombo? Should Dakota fail to win in the next two weeks, and should Saint Paul keep up their winning ways, it may indeed be a dish served as cold as the frozen tundra.

    Saint Paul's win this week keeps their division title hopes alive, and perhaps more importantly solidifies their standing in the Wild Card hunt. They are still a game back of the two current leads in that race, but that is a world better than being two games back.

    Speaking of two games back, Chicago's loss to North Liberty has likely dealt a lethal blow to their playoff chances. While they could still finish 9-7 vs. a possible 9-7 finish by Yuma or Pearl Harbor there's a problem looming within their own division. Both North Liberty and Saint Paul currently have 8 wins, the two teams play each other in week 17. This means, barring a tie, one of those two teams will finish no worse than 9-7. Because the first step in tiebreakers for the Wild Card is to eliminate all but one eligible team in each division, and because both North Liberty and Saint Paul would hold tiebreakers over Chicago, the Hitmen could be sent to the sidelines before the game even starts.

    Beating Chicago not only eliminated a potential Wild Card rival, it also kept North Liberty's own Wild Card chances alive. The Enforcers, along with a host of other 8 win teams, are circling just behind Yuma and Pearl Harbor should either of those two teams falter.

    NC SOUTH

    With a win over Gainesville, Charlotte did the deed Dakota didn't do. They have won their division and secured a playoff spot, but if the season ended today they would still only be the #2 seed behind Dakota and potentially the #3 seed behind San Francisco. It would come down to Common Games there and with two weeks left that is a tiebreaker I can't be bothered to try and figure out. This means the Sentinels still have plenty to play for and more reasons that just the single season passing record to keep those starters in there.

    Speaking of Gainesville, that loss to Charlotte put them out of my misery and made official their playoff stay-cation plans. They join division mates Morgantown and Columbus in the home for the holidays club after the Maniacs beat the Catfish to end that team's slim playoff hopes. Welcome to life without Bobby Tubbs Columbus fans, last year was just a dream.

    NC EAST

    Camden's win over Boston pushes them back into the lead of what is still a very competitive NC East. But the Cutters cannot be sitting easy at the top, as both Boston and Brooklyn are still in striking range and the dangerous and potentially desperate Ohio River Sharks are on deck.

    All three teams facing off against AC East opponents this week, but while Brooklyn and Camden get Lake County and Ohio Valley, both teams fighting for their own playoff standings, Boston gets comparative creampuff Punxsutawney. This could work out in Boston's favor. Both Brooklyn and Camden currently hold tiebreakers over the Irish, so a win this week and a loss by one (or both) would be just the thing to improve their playoff chances.

    As for South Maryland, at 3-11 the Jaguar/Bull/Jaguar/Maulers have only one question to be asking themselves. What is more important; a chance at the #1 pick in next year's draft, or a chance to completely screw with a division rival's playoff dreams come week 17?

    NC WEST

    San Francisco's win over Pearl Harbor vaults them back to the top of the NC West and into contention for a first round playoff bye. But before that can happen they still have to get past the Kalispel Stags, who are still fighting for their own playoff dream, and the ever dangerous Yuma Aces.

    Yuma plays San Francisco in week 17. This means they could not only catch right up to the Bayhawks with a win, they could also lock down the #1 tiebreaker (Head to Head) with a season sweep. It would also ensure their Division Record (tiebreaker #2) would be better than Pearl Harbor's no matter what happens during the Defender's season ender against Las Vegas.

    So to sum up for week 16.

    WHO'S IN?
    Charlotte

    WHO'S OUT
    any team in the NC South not named Charlotte, South Maryland, Las Vegas and Chicago (probably)

    WHO'S STILL GOT SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR?
    All 10 teams who haven't already been eliminated and 4 of the 6 who have but still want to play spoiler. Sorry Morgantown and Gainesville, not even your games against Port City and New Orleans matter.

    WHO CAN GET IN WITH A WIN?
    Dakota (anybody got Roy Parish's number?)

    WHO IS OUT WITH A LOSS?
    Nobody. North Liberty, Saint Paul and possibly Boston (depending on Common Games vs Camden) would be left grasping at Wild Card straws if they were to lose, everyone else could still have some sort of shot at division crown. A Pearl Harbor loss and San Francisco win would end any chances for the Defenders to take the NC West, but they would still be in the Wild Card hunt.
    Last edited by rando; 11-19-2013, 02:28 AM.

  • #2
    And in the interest of balance, and in acknowledgement that we were cluttering up that thread of theirs for the last few weeks, here is a brief analysis of the AC Playoff Picture.

    UTAH

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rando View Post
      And in the interest of balance, and in acknowledgement that we were cluttering up that thread of theirs for the last few weeks, here is a brief analysis of the AC Playoff Picture.

      UTAH

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      • #4
        OOOOO I HATE THAT BRENT COLUMBO.

        Also, I would kill to have Parrish back.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rando View Post
          And in the interest of balance, and in acknowledgement that we were cluttering up that thread of theirs for the last few weeks, here is a brief analysis of the AC Playoff Picture.

          UTAH
          I loled.

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          • #6
            In my haste to get the last post up before the week 16 sim actually ran I ended up making quite a few mistakes including would be playoff seeding, wild card tiebreaker order and most egregiously failing to notice that San Francisco could (and did) win their division that week.

            To make sure I do a bit better this week, the first post here is going to be a little reminder of just what, exactly, the tiebreakers for the playoff are.

            DIVISION TIEBREAKERS

            1) Head to Head
            2) Division Record
            3) Common Games
            4) Conference Record
            5) Strength of Victory
            6) Strength of Schedule

            WILD CARD TIEBREAKERS

            (If the tied teams are from the same division, apply division tie breaker).

            Two Teams

            1) Head to Head
            2) Conference Record
            3) Common Games (minimum four)
            4) Strength of Victory
            5) Strength of Schedule

            Three or More Teams

            (If only two teams remain tied any step, revert to step 1 of the applicable format)

            1) Eliminate all but one team from each division with Division Tiebreaker
            2) Head to Head
            3) Conference Record
            4) Common Games (minimum four)
            5) Strength of Victory
            6) Strength of Schedule

            OTHER TIE-BREAKING RULES

            1) Only one club advances in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild Card tie-breakers.
            2) To determine playoff seeding for division winners, apply Wild Card tie-breakers.
            3) To determine playoff seeding for Wild Card, apply division tiebreakers if teams are from the same division or Wild Card tiebreakers if teams are from different divisions.

            With that out of the way, let's head north to go make fun of the Foos' team some more.
            Last edited by rando; 11-20-2013, 09:23 PM.

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            • #7
              NFC NORTH


              DAKOTA

              Do you believe in magic? No? How about curses? Four weeks ago Dakota was the class of the NC. They were tied for the best record in the league. The words “Stevens Cup Rematch” were being uttered. (or would that be a three-match?) And these were hardly easy wins over hapless teams. Only two of their ten wins came against teams currently under .500, the other eight came against teams currently in the playoffs, or who are knocking on the door. After crushing one of those two sub-500 teams Dakota found themselves up four games in their division, with just five left to play. One win from a division crown. Just... one... win.

              The good news for the Totems is that all those early victories against would be playoff teams means that only a 10-6 Pearl Harbor team would have any sort of tiebreaker over them when it comes to the Wild Card. The worst case scenario is the Totems is Wild Card #2.

              Playoff Scenarios

              Division title with: 1) Dakota win, or 2) Dakota loss and Saint Paul loss

              Wild Card #1 with: 3) Dakota loss and Pearl Harbor loss or 4)Dakota loss and Pearl Harbor win and Yuma win

              Wild Card #2 with: 5) Dakota loss with Pearl Harbor win

              Playoff Seed #1 with Dakota win, San Francisco Loss
              Playoff Seed #2 with Dakota win, San Francisco Win
              Playoff Seed #3 with Dakota loss, St. Paul loss, Charlotte or Camden loss
              Playoff Seed #4 with Dakota loss, St. Paul loss, Charlotte and Camden win


              SAINT PAUL

              Five weeks ago the Bandits' chances at a division win looked hopeless. A holding penalty wiped out a last second, game winning, hail mary TD pass and cost the team a much needed win against division leader Dakota. Another loss against Phoenix the next week left them four games back with just five left to play. But you already know how that story goes.

              With one more win, and one more Dakota loss, that heartbreaking holding penalty will officially be wiped from memory. Even if Dakota does manage to break their slump and find that ever elusive “just one win” the Bandits are still sitting pretty in the Wild Card race. A 10 win Saint Paul team would have Head to Head tiebreakers over Boston, Brooklyn and Pearl Harbor as well as Common Game tiebreakers over Yuma. Only Camden (Head to Head) could beat a 10 win Saint Paul team, but should Camden win their division that one wouldn't matter. Things get a bit trickier for the Bandits should they fall to 9-7.

              Playoff Scenarios

              Division title with: 1) Saint Paul win and Dakota loss

              Wild Card #1 with: 2) Saint Paul and Dakota win Camden win or Boston win

              Wild Card #2 with: 3) Saint Paul and Dakota win with Camden loss and Brooklyn win, or 4) Saint Paul loss with Camden or Boston win, Pearl Harbor or Yuma loss

              Out Of Playoffs with 5) Saint Paul Loss with Camden Loss and Brooklyn win and Pearl Harbor or Yuma Win, 6) Saint Paul loss with Pearl Harbor and Yuma win.

              Playoff Seed #2 with St. Paul win and Dakota loss, Charlotte, Camden loss, Brooklyn win
              Playoff Seed #3 with St. Paul win and Dakota loss, Charlotte or Camden win
              Playoff Seed #4 St. Paul win and Dakota loss, Charlotte and Camden win or Camden loss and Brooklyn loss


              NORTH LIBERTY

              I'm including the Enforcers here because , according to the game at least, they have not yet been eliminated. But I cannot find a scenario where they make the playoffs. If the Enforcers beat the Bandits next week, both teams will finish 9-7. The loser of the Boston/Brooklyn game and perhaps both Yuma and Pearl Harbor could also finish 9-7 setting up a potential 5 way Wild Card tie breaker.

              The problem in this situation is the first step in such a tie breaking scenario would be to eliminate all but one team from each division using the division tie breakers. At this point Saint Paul and North Liberty would have split their season series (Head to Head) and would have the same Division Record, the next tie breaker between the two would be Common Games. Saint Paul beats North Liberty here 6-4 to 5-5 no matter what happens next week. So Saint Paul would eliminate the Enforcers from the Wild Card tiebreakers.

              Now as long as this 9-7 Saint Paul team could be WC #1 this wouldn't be a problem, North Liberty would just get cycled back into the pool for another round of tiebreakers for the WC #2. But the either winner of the Boston/Brooklyn game or Camden (should the Cutters lose and Brooklyn win) would already be a 10-6 Wild Card #1. There would be no other Wild Card spots to try for.

              Playoff Scenarios

              Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find any. Sorry.

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              • #8
                Dakota is cursed! Somone put a hex on Foos!

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                • #9
                  NC SOUTH

                  CHARLOTTE

                  The Sentinels have already locked down their division, but are still in the hunt for a potential first round playoff bye. Charlotte lost to San Francisco back in week 9, so the #1 seed is out of the question no matter what San Francisco does next week.

                  Dakota would also hold a tie breaker over Charlotte, Conference Record in this case. The only way the Sentinels could match the Totems in that regard would be if they won this week and Dakota lost, in which case they would have a better record that Dakota and the tie breakers wouldn't matter.

                  Saint Paul also has a Head to Head tiebreaker, but in order for this tie breaker to come into affect not only would Dakota have to finish their epic late season collapse, the Sentinels would also have to lose this week. If this happens the tiebreaker would be for either the #3 or #4 spot.

                  A 10-6 Charlotte team would have a Conference Record tiebreaker over a 10-6 Brooklyn team, should they win the division. But against Camden things aren't so clear. They did not meet in the regular season, if they had the same overall record, then they would also have the same Conference Record, and they wouldn't have played enough Common Games to qualify. So it would come down to Strength of Victory. With one game left to play and with two more divisions and six more teams to cover I ain't about to figure that shit out.


                  Playoff Seed #2 with Charlotte win, Dakota loss, Camden loss (or win, I don't know)
                  Playoff Seed #3 with Charlotte loss, Dakota win or loss and Camden loss, or Dakota loss, Saint Paul win and Camden loss
                  Playoff Seed #4 with Charlotte loss with Dakota win or Dakota loss and Saint Paul win and Camden win (and maybe a loss)
                  Last edited by rando; 11-20-2013, 11:24 PM.

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                  • #10
                    NC EAST


                    CAMDEN

                    The Cutters have the easiest route to the playoffs, win and they take the division ending Boston's all too brief five year run as NC East division champions. Camden could tie San Francisco in overall record should they win and the Bayhawks lose, but because they lost to SF in week three they could not take the #1 seed. Camden would also lose out in the Head to Head tiebreaker against Dakota, but hold the advantage over Saint Paul. Against Charlotte, oh, that's right, I ain't doing that shit.

                    Camden can still lose the division if they lose this week and Brooklyn beats Boston. And it has only been a few short seasons since the last time Brooklyn ruined the Cutters playoff dreams with a week 17 victory. Should the Cutters end up in the Wild Card mix they would be on the short end of tiebreakers (Conference Record) against potential 10-6 Pearl Harbor and Yuma, but would still hold that Head to Head tiebreaker over Saint Paul.

                    Playoff Scenarios

                    Division title with: 1) Camden win or 2) Camden loss and Brooklyn loss

                    Wild Card #1 with: 3) Camden loss and Brooklyn win with Yuma and Pearl Harbor loss

                    Wild Card #2 with: 4) Camden loss and Brooklyn win with Yuma or Pearl Harbor loss

                    Out Of Playoffs with: 5) Camden loss and Brooklyn win with Yuma and Pearl Harbor win

                    Playoff Seed #2 with: Camden win and Dakota and Charlotte loss
                    Playoff Seed #3 with: Camden win and Dakota or Charlotte win
                    Playoff Seed #4 with: Camden win and Dakota and Charlotte win


                    BROOKLYN

                    Will all the talent in the world (or at least this side of Utah) and after a blistering 5-0 start, the Hitmen looked like a lock for a playoff spot. Brooklyn's best chance now to sneak back in would be to win their division. To pull this off they not only have to beat Boston this week, they would also have to hope that South Maryland gives up on their #1 overall pick dreams and takes down Camden as well. Brooklyn split the season series with Camden, but their better Division Record would give them their first ever NC East division crown.

                    If they were to lose this week, or even if they win and Camden wins, their playoff chances look bleak. Both Dakota and Saint Paul would hold a Head to Head tie breaker over them, and Yuma and Pearl Harbor would have them beat at Conference Record. The only team that Brooklyn would be able to eliminate by tiebreaker would be a 9-7 North Liberty, and as mentioned above that wouldn't even matter.

                    Playoff Scenarios

                    Division title with: 1) Brooklyn win and Camden loss

                    Wild Card #1 with: 2) Brooklyn win and Camden win with St. Paul, Yuma and Pearl Harbor loss

                    Wild Card #2 with: 3) Brooklyn win and Camden win with two of (Saint Paul, Yuma, Pearl Harbor) loss

                    Out Of Playoffs with: 4) Brooklyn loss or 5) Brooklyn win with Camden win and two of (Saint Paul, Yuma and Pearl Harbor) win

                    Playoff Seed #4 with: Brooklyn win and Camden loss


                    BOSTON

                    Boston fans might be quick to lay the responsibility for this year's performance on Cary Money's injury and this backup Joey Kroll. And they might have an argument to make. Sure the Irish only lost one game while Kroll was under center, but that one game (or less) is going to decide the NC EAST. One game could be the difference between a playoff spot and a trip home. And when that one game was against potential Wild Card tiebreaker rival Saint Paul, that one game takes on a whole new meaning.

                    Boston cannot win the NC East this year. Even if they beat Brooklyn and Camden loses the two teams would still finish with the same record. The two teams also split the season series, and would finish with the same division record. The problem is Common Games. Even should Boston win and Camden lose this week, the Cutters would still hold a one game edge in that tiebreaker.

                    Playoff Scenarios

                    Wild Card #1 with: 1) Boston win and both Saint Paul and Pearl Harbor loss.

                    Wild Card #2 with: 2) Boston win and any either Saint Paul or Pearl Harbor win

                    Out Of Playoffs with: 3) Boston loss or 4) Boston win and both Saint Paul and Pearl Harbor win
                    Last edited by rando; 11-20-2013, 10:59 PM.

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                    • #11
                      NC WEST


                      SAN FRANCISCO

                      With the Bayhawks' win last week, as well as losses by both Pearl Harbor and Yuma San Francisco tied up their first division crown since 2015. Or five years before the current longest tenured Bayhawk (WR Shawn Wells) was drafted. For those of you not keeping track of such things, the first SIM of the 2015 season ran on December 1, 2009. But BradZ stuck with it, and put up with all us yahoos for four long years and now it has finally it has paid off. With a win this week the Bayhawks will lock down the #1 seed and home field throughout the playoffs. Even if they lose, because they beat both Camden and Charlotte, they are still guaranteed at least a first round bye.

                      Playoff Scenarios


                      Playoff Seed #1 with: San Francisco win or San Francisco loss and Dakota loss
                      Playoff Seed #2 with: San Francisco loss and Dakota win


                      YUMA

                      Yuma's loss to Portland last week doomed any chances for the Aces to catch up to San Francisco for the division title. It also left them holding down the #2 Wild Card spot with a host of teams ready to pounce should the Aces fall to the Bayhawks this week.

                      The Aces currently hold a Division Record tiebreaker over Pearl Harbor, in order for Yuma to give that up they would also have to find themselves one game back of the Defenders where tiebreakers don't matter any more. They would, however, lose out in tiebreaker over Boston (Head to Head) the reason 9-6 Boston isn't currently listed as the #2 is because currently 9-6 Brooklyn would be eliminating them from the Wild Card tiebreakers. That would change should Boston beat the Hitmen this week.

                      Playoff Scenarios


                      Wild Card #1 with: 1) Yuma win with Boston and Saint Paul loss.

                      Wild Card #2 with: 2) Yuma win with Boston or Saint Paul win, or 3) Yuma loss with Saint Paul and Boston loss

                      Out Of Playoffs with: 4) Yuma win with Boston and Saint Paul win, or 5) Yuma loss and Pearl Harbor or Boston win


                      PEARL HARBOR

                      Just a few weeks ago I gave the Defenders the kiss of death when I labeled them as having “the easiest path” the the division title (crap! didn't I just say that again about my own team?) but back to back losses to San Francisco and then Anchorage has left them living on the edge of a broken heart. A win over Las Vegas could help them into the playoffs, but a loss would leave them right where they are now, behind Yuma (Division Record) and Saint Paul (Head to Head).

                      Playoff Scenarios

                      Wild Card #1 with: 1) Pearl Harbor win and both Yuma and Saint Paul loss

                      Wild Card #2 with: 2) Pearl Harbor win and either Yuma or Saint Paul loss

                      Out Of Playoffs with: Pearl Harbor loss

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                      • #12
                        AC PLAYOFFS UPDATE!

                        While checking the various tiebreakers I noticed that Utah actually lost a game this year, and that loss came to another team that will be in the playoffs and who only has two losses. This means that if Utah loses next week, and this other team wins, then the other team would be the #1 seed in the playoffs and would have home field throughout.

                        Then a couple of weeks later Utah would be in another Stevens Cup.

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                        • #13
                          Great write up rando... a disappointing year in BKL.. need some luck here to get into the playoff..

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                          • #14
                            hehe that we did. Memphis might capture the 1st seed if we're not careful.

                            This year's NC playoff field looks VERY different from previous years...
                            Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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                            • #15
                              Wow nice pick up!!
                              Miami Sharks (BLB)
                              * BLB Champions --> 2017, 2020.

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                              * OSFL Bowl CHAMPION > 2036, 2047.

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