2037 Draft

[Matt]

Yes. Just a utility.

[Guest]

I could be wrong. I would personally caution not to get overly exciting about combines, though. They do lie.

[Guest]

So do bars.

[IrishGuy65]

So do poker players.

[IrishGuy65]

It's a shame that Port City took that TE. I was thinking he'd combine perfectly with my two good WRs and RB to make a very good set of offensive skill players.

Since I couldn't make a trade for a good SLB, I'll probably end up taking Wilkins and moving him to SLB.

[Guest]

Hey! The AI did an AI thing and took that DE! Thanks, AI!

[pizzaddict]

What is wrong with it taking a DE?

[Nemesis]

What is wrong with it taking a DE?

Nothing, except the DE doesn't look overly great is all. Conscriptors AI system isn't all that good, so the autopicks (that aren't from your player queue) will usually be bad.

[Guest]

AFAIK there really isn't any AI in Conscriptor picks, it takes whoever is the highest player based off the original rankings. I think.

In this case it was the #4 ranked DE who doesn't look fantastic based on his bars. I'm good with that.

[Nemesis]

AFAIK there really isn't any AI in Conscriptor picks, it takes whoever is the highest player based off the original rankings. I think.

In this case it was the #4 ranked DE who doesn't look fantastic based on his bars. I'm good with that.

I guess the label AI is what we mean here.

[pizzaddict]

Yeah I just glanced at his bars and your right they aren't great. I thought you were saying "stupid AI for taking a DE so high".

[sawblade300]

AI will always take the highest ranked player on the board for vacant teams or teams that have no list set. That DE, while not even the best DE in the draft, was ranked as the BPA, so he went.

Now...I have seen a study where the players ranking is a tell into how good that player may be. Even if his combines and bars don't look great. The game does know something. So I'd keep my eye on this guy. he may be very good down the road.

Doing a quick check at past players with similar combines, this guy could be in the mid 70's once developed. So that's not bad if you ask me.

[Nemesis]

Yeah I just glanced at his bars and your right they aren't great. I thought you were saying "stupid AI for taking a DE so high".

Have to be careful when "just" looking at bars or "just" looking at combines. Combine vs "certain bar's expectation" is why chuck took his WR over mine.

[IrishGuy65]

I basically look at bars, then look at combines to see if the combines back up what the bars are telling me.

For example, if I see a high BPR bar on a WR, then look at his 40 and see it is green, I'm not going to take the guy, because I can't really believe the bar is going to remain so high.

Late in the draft, I do the reverse... look for guys with good combines, ignoring the bars, in the hope that maybe their bars will get better based on their combines. The problem with this strategy is that you have to wait until their rookie contract ends to really give them a chance to show if they are going to be good or not.

[Guest]

For example, if I see a high BPR bar on a WR, then look at his 40 and see it is green, I'm not going to take the guy, because I can't really believe the bar is going to remain so high.

Normally I would agree with you. The only exception to this rule is static bars. That 40 bar is not going to change much which means it has to be the combine that is lying. Basically the higher the 40 bar turns out to be on my WR, the better overall he is going to be.

The opposite can be said of the other WR. His 40 bar should be close to maxed given his combine but it is not.