Transaction Rules (formerly titled uhhhh)

[Nemesis]

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• Free agents may not be signed after the last game of your season.
• Players may not be released after the last game of your season.

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[Guest]

Yup, it's to keep people like you from signing a bunch of younger players who will be RFAs.

Don't think we've had to enforce it. Hell, Aston may not care anymore.

[Guest]

[*]Players may not be released after the last game of your season.

This, I believe, is okay if you do it on the Bowl sim.

[Guest]

Had no idea there was such a rule. I may have broken it last season.

[RyanG]

So is this rule being enforced? There were a couple of guys I wanted to release, but I didn't because of the rules.

[Aston]

Good point; I never remember to go through and check this.

As garion noted, for this year, you should wait until the bowl sim to do that. In future seasons, I think we'll drop that part of the rule.

The first part, should we keep it?

[Guest]

I have no issue with people cutting players whenever. If they do it while the playoffs are going on and that player ends up on a playoff team then so be it. Smart move is to wait until the final week anyway so a playoff team can't take that player, but we're talking fringe players usually anyway, so ...

I am, on principle, against non-playoff teams signing soon to be RFAs to their roster in the playoffs so that they are on their roster the next season. That's gaming the system.

[Nemesis]

I have no issue with people cutting players whenever. If they do it while the playoffs are going on and that player ends up on a playoff team then so be it. Smart move is to wait until the final week anyway so a playoff team can't take that player, but we're talking fringe players usually anyway, so ...

I am, on principle, against non-playoff teams signing soon to be RFAs to their roster in the playoffs so that they are on their roster the next season. That's gaming the system.

I'm with garion on the first part, but regarding RFA, I don't care either way. Teams that aren't in the playoffs could use the players.

As with most things, one big ole BUT with my opinion is that you still should never exceed legal rosters. I shouldn't be able to hog 80 players in the playoffs. If I sign someone, I should have to release a player to stay at 53.

[IrishGuy65]

I think you should be able to release players whenever you want, in any sim. However, I think in fairness to the playoffs, you should wait until the Bowl sim to release after the season. What one team considers a fringe player another team could consider an improvement.

As for signing players, I think the only teams that should be allowed to sign players once the season is over are playoff teams that had to put a guy on IR. And, as Aston said, only 1 player per IR guy to be signed.

So, in essence:

1. No team can release a player between Wildcard sim and Bowl midweek sim, inclusive.
2. No players can be signed after Week 17 sim.
2a. Exception: Teams that are actively playing in the playoffs that put a player on IR can sign 1 player to take the roster spot of the IR player.

For #1, if there is no Bowl midweek, then obviously the last sim before the Bowl game.

I prefer this to making a 53 man roster the rule, simply because I can release a lot of guys in the last year of their contract that I'm not planning on resigning, then sign a bunch of RFA dudes.

[Guest]

The reason I don't like teams adding younger players to lock them up as RFAs next season is pretty simple:

It punishes playoff teams.

Allowing teams to sign young players during the playoffs punishes teams for making the playoffs as those teams are not going to be cutting people while they're still active in the playoffs.

What you're proposing, Irish, is likely too complicated of a ruleset.

Teams that aren't in the playoffs could use the players.

Teams in the playoffs could too. We're not communists. You need to work your way to the top, not get lifted up by the rules.

Seriously, though, there is tons of turnover every season from retirements to contracts ending and fresh bodies are always welcome. Let's give everyone a shot at those players, not just those who aren't in the playoff hunt.

[IrishGuy65]

I disagree about the complexity.

Simply, after the Week 17 sim, when posting the sim is done, Aston posts:

1. No signings allowed except for an active playoff team that puts a player on injured reserve.
2. Teams are not allowed to release players until the Bowl game sim.

Doesn't really look, or sound, complicated to me. In many of these leagues, people seem to think the worst of the GMs involved (meaning they think people are morons). Is there anyone here that doesn't understand these two simple rules?

People are always going to MISS a rule. No one is going to misunderstand this rule.

[Guest]

It isn't that people are morons, though it is easy to forget which league has which rules and at what time, but a large part is that it puts more burden on commissioners.

Also, I renamed the thread so we can get more eyes on the discussion.

[Cory]

As a non-contender I'm not too worried about these rules one way or the other. However, I don't see a problem with allowing adding and dropping at any point. If it's known before the season starts and is the same for everybody then people will learn to deal with it. If you're that worried about somebody signing a free agent in order to beat you in the playoffs plan ahead for it. Save some cap space and beat them to the punch.

Have there been any instances of a free agent getting picked up during the playoffs and becoming a difference maker that season? I think it would be pretty rare for a borderline player with zero cohesion to come in and change the outcome of a game, but I could be wrong about that.

[Guest]

I think the current rule is the fairest way of doing this. I don't think anything needs to change.

Sometimes you may get a situation where someone is not familiar with the rules and the commisioner may overlook a transaction by mistake. On the odd occasion this happens, I think most would agree that 'sh!t happens'.

[Guest]

As a non-contender I'm not too worried about these rules one way or the other. However, I don't see a problem with allowing adding and dropping at any point. If it's known before the season starts and is the same for everybody then people will learn to deal with it. If you're that worried about somebody signing a free agent in order to beat you in the playoffs plan ahead for it. Save some cap space and beat them to the punch.

Have there been any instances of a free agent getting picked up during the playoffs and becoming a difference maker that season? I think it would be pretty rare for a borderline player with zero cohesion to come in and change the outcome of a game, but I could be wrong about that.

The rules are in place to give playoff teams access to all the available players in case of injury. Sure, someone off the street isn't likely to be much of a contributor, but they can contribute.

For example, I picked up a 5th WR who ended up a ST gunner. That right there may have been the edge in my game. Unlikely, but he did make a couple tackles.

It's not playoff teams the rules are in place for, it's for non playoff teams who can suck up potential players the playoff teams could use. If that makes sense.