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  • Rookie ratings question.

    We really won't know how they are truly rated until after camp, right ??

  • #2
    Right, training camp will be their first rankings you can trust. . .they can change over the course of the season.

    I watch the ratings when they hit the roster, then look at them after training camp. . .good indicators. . .

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    • #3
      cool. Thanks.

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      • #4
        Expect most of the players to drop 5-10 pts in future rating, anything less than that or ANY movement up an consider yourself lucky.
        PFL Tampa Bay Bucs
        FFL Cincinnati Bengals

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Heelfan71 View Post
          We really won't know how they are truly rated until after camp, right ??
          Sort of. The great majority of players are "masked" in one direction or the other. If the scouted number in future potential increases, that's usually an indicator that he's better than what you see. If the number decreases, that's usually an indicator that he's worse than what you see.

          Here are a bunch of examples from 6.0e. Cur1 and Fut1 represent the "first-look" ratings. Cur2 and Fut2 represent the ratings after the first training camp. MaxCur and MaxFut represent the highest current rating the player would achieve in his career. CurChg and FutChg represent the amount that those ratings appeared to change over the course of the player's career.

          Pick POS LAST FIRST Cur1 Fut1 Cur2 Fut2 MaxCur MaxFut CurChg FutChg 1(30) DE Samuels Bryant 26 55 27 58 71 71 45 16 2(30) RB Tautuaa O.J. 33 53 33 53 57 57 24 4 2(9) WR Rivers Vince 22 30 25 32 33 33 11 3 3(30) TE Fitzgerald Jared 32 47 41 58 63 63 31 16 5(30) G Foley Ray 24 40 26 44 54 54 30 14 6(30) OLB Fortier Donnie 19 29 23 34 45 45 26 16 7(30) T Stachelski Terry 6 17 8 22 29 29 23 12 1(30) DT Hutton Korey 37 83 39 78 64 64 27 -19 2(29) DE Lacina D.J. 29 48 31 48 48 48 19 0 4(29) RB Shannon Oliver 19 35 19 35 31 31 12 -4 5(2) DE Pagan Mario 16 39 16 38 36 36 20 -3 5(30) CB Longley Kevin 7 24 9 30 51 51 44 27 6(29) DE Shepard Perry 21 40 21 37 30 30 9 -10 7(30) K El Nino Damon 23 35 30 44 57 57 34 22 1(22) WR Ruhl Levon 48 66 49 65 68 68 20 2 2(25) CB Holmes B.J. 14 20 16 29 45 45 31 25 3(24) CB Rice Artie 25 39 28 45 55 55 30 16 4(23) QB Rayburn Marc 9 52 9 49 41 41 32 -11 5(22) T Tubbs Cole 16 32 16 27 20 20 4 -12 6(25) RB Goowin Quinn 27 33 27 33 37 37 10 4 7(24) C Ramsey Wesley 16 56 18 56 55 55 39 -1

          None of the players in this particular list were of the type that "boomed" or "busted." In other words, these guys were just "unmasked"--revealing who they really were relatively slowly over time. From time to time, you'll see players "boom" or "bust, meaning that their ratings will take a significant jump (15 points or more) at one time. Those are changes to the core, under-the-hood ratings. That's rare, though. In the vast majority of cases, you see gradual unmasking, referred to as "creeping" by many vets, such as in every case above. QB Marc Rayburn showed up on the roster as a 9/52, dropped to 9/49 in training camp, and was slowly revealed to have *really* been 9/41, not 9/52.

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          • #6
            Bah. Can't delete or edit my own post, and can't post a chart here. (We need to enable that.) Anyway, I've posted a primer on how this works at FOFC.

            http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com/f...ad.php?t=61252

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SkyDog View Post
              Bah. Can't delete or edit my own post, and can't post a chart here. (We need to enable that.) Anyway, I've posted a primer on how this works at FOFC.

              http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com/f...ad.php?t=61252
              Any idea how I do enable that? I'm a vbulletin noob.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Andrew View Post
                Any idea how I do enable that? I'm a vbulletin noob.
                Checkign at FOFC now...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SkyDog View Post
                  Checkign at FOFC now...
                  Forums and Moderators--->Forum Manager--->{Select the specific forum}

                  Enable / Disable Features Allow HTML Yes No
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                  So, you have to do it for each forum and sub-forum. I don't think there's a global enable.


                  While you're at it, I got this message when trying to post this....

                  You have included 7 images in your message. You are limited to using 4 images so please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

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