2009 SUGGESTED NEW RULES - PLEASE READ!

[Jake]

What about limiting a bonus-to-salary ratio on 1 year deals? 1:2?

[aholbert]

It looks like this is going to pass but most people arent happy with the overall rule so lets discuss some tweaks.

1)Eliminating 1 yr contracts for FA-1 unrestricted FA. (I'm not a fan of this one because there are plenty of FA who are willing and would prefer to sign 1 yr deals)

2)Eliminating 1 yr contracts for players on the Grey Sheet. (Top 75 FA)

3)Only allow 1 yr offers to players on the Grey Sheet if they ask for it. (Will require us policing the GS for offers that violate the rules.)

4)Any players available in FA1 with single digit experience must be signed to multi year deals. (I would be willing to lower that to any player with less than 8 yrs experience.)


Any thoughts or other suggestions?

[tarcone]

I like #4, no #3, no, wait, #2. Shoot, give me #4 again.

[tarcone]

Forgot this

[Pat]

I like #3.

[Guest]

I like the KISS #4 --- less work for everyone involved ---
---- would prefer that 8 years and less must be multi-year deals

[Jake]

I voted no, but I am completely down with #4. I still think instead we should consider some sort of signing bonus ratio on one year deals instead.

[Guest]

I4)Any players available in FA1 with single digit experience must be signed to multi year deals. (I would be willing to lower that to any player with less than 8 yrs experience.)

Now *there* we go! That's easy to check and enforce.

[Guest]

Now *there* we go! That's easy to check and enforce.

sarcasm >? and omniscient one --- your thoughts...

[Guest]

I was being serious. That one requires no going back and looking at what the guy was requesting. I think the key to making this easy is getting away from everything being tied to requests, especially considering that the FOF economy is such in MP that requests should be pretty much ignored to begin with.

[Guest]

I was being serious.

my apologies ----

[Delandis]

Do we have a rule to enforce about doubling up on contracts in the 2nd year? For example, I've seen a lot of contracts with medium bonuses but astronomical 2nd year salaries, so you KNOW a person will likely cut the player the following year, but get them for a relatively modest sum. I guess this is called back-loading and it works well for 2-year contracts.

[aholbert]

#4 helps but it still doesnt address the problem of player's requesting a 4-5yr deal and accepting shorter deal (now 2 yr's under #4).

Maybe i'm the only one that cares but I prefer this game to be realistic and a challenge. Part of the challenge of FA should be that you are taking a risk by signing a player to a long term deal. With the bonus heavy one/two year deals, there is no risk. The Perkins deal is an example of a deal that probably would not have happened in reality. Perkins looking for a 4yr deal, signs a 1 yr deal with a team that already has a #1 back and risks lowering his FA value by becoming a backup. He had 2 good deals on the table from CHA and POR (my offer fell short) for similar money (Maybe more guaranteed money from CLB) but turned them down. Perkins pretty much signed for the money and some may see that as a cpu glitch rather than good strategy.

I'm guilty of it too. I signed Lenny Huff to a bonus heavy one year deal and I knew he would sign just because I offered him way more money than anyone else. Thats not fun to me and eliminates some of the strategy of this game if I know that all i have to do is offer the most money and a player is mine.

I think 4 is a step in the right direction but doesnt eliminate the issue. More likely than not, we will just seem more bonus heavy 2 yr deals instead of 1yr deals and that doesnt exactly fix the issue. Just my 2 cents.

[nouvelle_vague]

just prevent people from franchising players after they've signed one year deals. That prevents people from getting a good player long term by doing a one year deal. Its completely realistic that some players will sign just a one year deal for a variety of reasons - like wanting to win a championship. Its easily policable. Only a few players are franchised each year.

THIS is why I hate regulation in these leagues. Understand the desire to do this, but the negatives outweight the benefits.

Just my $.02.

[Guest]

I've seen a lot of contracts with medium bonuses but astronomical 2nd year salaries,

One of the leagues I'm in has a rule (I think) that the 2nd year can never be more than double the first year ( + bonus ?) and 3rd year no more than double the 2nd year --- etc.

Thoughts...