2014 Preseason Week 1 Results.

[Clay]

I assume he keeps backups, couldn't he just go back a SIM to get their contracts and edit?

[Plastic]

Yeah in that case it does seem extremely harsh. Can Aaron void the contracts and then just re-sign them to their old deal?

For 8 players it does seem harsh especially on the 1st offense. If it was just 1 player maybe not that big of deal for him to head out to FA but 8 would be a HUGE loss.

[Guest]

Yeah in that case it does seem extremely harsh. Can Aaron void the contracts and then just re-sign them to their old deal?

No. The commish can't offer contracts at all. And because we're past training camp, players can only be signed to one-year deals. If we're going to diverge from the rule as written, a solution *might* be:

1. void
2. owner re-signs them to one-year deals equal to what they had been getting
3. next year, owner re-signs them to x-year deal for the rest of the contract value

Downsides to this way of doing it...

• lots of tracking
• players might not sign for the amounts
• other owners not paying full attention might sign one of these guys

[Guest]

...edit...

You haven't played FOF for very long. :)

There is no editing whatsoever in the game other than names and nicknames.

[Clay]

You haven't played FOF for very long. :)

There is no editing whatsoever in the game other than names and nicknames.

Yeah... I only play the Multiplayer and I'm not the Commish... so... I don't know much at all about what's behind the curtain.

[Guest]

Yeah... I only play the Multiplayer and I'm not the Commish... so... I don't know much at all about what's behind the curtain.

Sort of a semi-private joke there. People who have played FOF for a long time have often bemoaned the complete lack of ability to edit anything of substance in the game.

[aholbert]

I saw this last night and was planning to address it tonight. A couple of thoughts:

1) This league is not a rule heavy league. We have 2 major rules. The Grey Sheet rule (Top 75 FA cant receive an offer for less than they are requesting) and this renegotation rule. Every owner should be aware of it (especially the veteran owners) because its been discussed several times and I've posted multiple reminder emails.

The punishment is harsh and thats exactly what I wanted. I wanted the rule to have some teeth. I actually considered changing it so that a draft pick can be taken after the second violation. The reason is that the rule isnt complicated or difficult to follow. Owners have to take the responsibility of knowing the rules and following them.

2) Tom (Kalispel) is a great owner and one of the most active in the league. There is no doubt in my mind that this was just a simple mistake and that he will never violate the rules again. With that said, 17 of those signings violate the league renegotiation rules and according to the rules the contracts must be voided. Here is a list of the players:

Manning, Mcmurray, Medford, Meyer, Grier, Carter, Morris, Perkins, Ramsey, Carter, Richmond, Vance, Stone, Watson, Ernst, Finch, Floyd and Gushue.

This is the second team that violated the rules this season. The first team signed its two starting T to illegal contracts. Because it was a first offense and an honest mistake, I allowed him to keep one of the T and voided the other T's contract. The T then became a FA and he was able to sign him back but had to compete w/ other owners.

I'm going to do something similar here and will give Kalispel the oppurtunity to protect 4 of its players. The other 13 will become FAs and any team can bid for their services. I know some will see this as a harsh punishment but the new rules were put in for a reason and I feel they must be enforced.

[Pat]

Portland, Anchorage and Washington love hearing this.

[Guest]

I saw this last night and was planning to address it tonight. A couple of thoughts:

1) This league is not a rule heavy league. We have 2 major rules. The Grey Sheet rule (Top 75 FA cant receive an offer for less than they are requesting) and this renegotation rule. Every owner should be aware of it (especially the veteran owners) because its been discussed several times and I've posted multiple reminder emails.

The punishment is harsh and thats exactly what I wanted. I wanted the rule to have some teeth. I actually considered changing it so that a draft pick can be taken after the second violation. The reason is that the rule isnt complicated or difficult to follow. Owners have to take the responsibility of knowing the rules and following them.

2) Tom (Kalispel) is a great owner and one of the most active in the league. There is no doubt in my mind that this was just a simple mistake and that he will never violate the rules again. With that said, 17 of those signings violate the league renegotiation rules and according to the rules the contracts must be voided. Here is a list of the players:

Manning, Mcmurray, Medford, Meyer, Grier, Carter, Morris, Perkins, Ramsey, Carter, Richmond, Vance, Stone, Watson, Ernst, Finch, Floyd and Gushue.

This is the second team that violated the rules this season. The first team signed its two starting T to illegal contracts. Because it was a first offense and an honest mistake, I allowed him to keep one of the T and voided the other T's contract. The T then became a FA and he was able to sign him back but had to compete w/ other owners.

I'm going to do something similar here and will give Kalispel the oppurtunity to protect 4 of its players. The other 13 will become FAs and any team can bid for their services. I know some will see this as a harsh punishment but the new rules were put in for a reason and I feel they must be enforced.

Fair enough. It certainly has some teeth to it.

When will the contracts be voided?

[aholbert]

Fair enough. It certainly has some teeth to it.

When will the contracts be voided?

Once I hear back from Tom. Hopefully before Thursday's sim at the latest. One thing I noticed was most of the players were average to below average players. I think there will be 1 or 2 good players available at the most.

[Guest]

so even if i am having cap issues i cant renegotiate?

[aholbert]

so even if i am having cap issues i cant renegotiate?

Nope. You can renegotiate with players who have 1 yr left on their contract. If you still have cap trouble , u can do what NFL teams do...cut players.

[Guest]

Nope. You can renegotiate with players who have 1 yr left on their contract. If you still have cap trouble , u can do what NFL teams do...cut players.

not to be a smart ass, but with all due respect NFL teams restructure contracts with more than 1 year left all the time to make cap room. LT last year as an example.

i understand he intent of the rule. however in my situation it wouldnt be against the spirit of the rule. im simply trying to make the "numbers work" not trying to prevent guys from hitting free agency. and its not like im trying to sign studs just trying to fill roster spots

[aholbert]

not to be a smart ass, but with all due respect NFL teams restructure contracts with more than 1 year left all the time to make cap room. LT last year as an example.

i understand he intent of the rule. however in my situation it wouldnt be against the spirit of the rule. im simply trying to make the "numbers work" not trying to prevent guys from hitting free agency. and its not like im trying to sign studs just trying to fill roster spots

You arent being a smart ass and I understand your situation. The difference between this game and the real life is that NFL players accept renegotiations less frequently than players in FOF. We had several players who were accepting renegotiated contracts every single year. These were players that were not in danger of being cut and who were accepting renegotiations even though it didnt benefit them financially. That would never happen in the NFL.

This rule will cause teams to have to be careful with who the sign to long term deals and force them to make tough decisions about players every now and then.

[aholbert]

Ive actually had a second thought about Kalispel's rule violation. As I stated earlier, when another team signed 2 players against the rules I let him keep one and voided the other....a 1 for 1 deal. I would only be fair that I do the same thing here.

So instead of 4 players, I will let Kalispel keep 8 of the 17 contracts. With that said, because this was a huge violation of the rule, Kalispel will not be given a second warning. If Kalispel violates the rules again he will be forced to void every player and will lose a draft pick of my choosing.