2018 Draft - What did you get?

[Guest]

Dakota Totems Rookies:

1(11) Grant Giefeke WR 36/53

Bart Ross is something like 43/73, but was unavailable by pick 11. It looks like I probably made the right choice here, as Syms is 29/51 and although Meadows is 42/62 I didn't like how his combines measured up to Giefeke.

2(15) Kenneth Riley WLB 33/61

I'm very pleased with this pick. He will be moved to MLB and probably start there for me immediately.

3(14) Timothy Batchelor G 27/64

This guy is looking like a steal in the third round. He will replace the aging Sherman "Tank" Hall, recently converted to G, in the near future.

4(13) J.T. Sandage C 21/49

Not looking like the greatest center in the world, but maybe he'll provide some quality depth.

5(12) Mike Clements QB 8/42

Took a gamble on this no combine QB. Training Camp will determine whether he makes the roster or not.

6(11) Steven Graham DT 20/27

I don't really know what I was thinking with this guy.

7(15) Freddie Anderson S 23/49

This guy has some nice bar pairs, and I'm hopeful he will turn into a serviceable player. I was very happy to snag him in the seventh round.

[Guest]

Dakota Totems Rookies:

1(11) Grant Giefeke WR 36/53

Bart Ross is something like 43/73, but was unavailable by pick 11. It looks like I probably made the right choice here, as Syms is 29/51 and although Meadows is 42/62 I didn't like how his combines measured up to Giefeke.

Do not get too enthused about pre-camp numbers. But I will compare your numbers to what I see later and tell you my predictions.

If someone could post my numbers, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

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Do not get too enthused about pre-camp numbers. But I will compare your numbers to what I see later and tell you my predictions.

If someone could post my numbers, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

Yeah, camp is much more important. I have a feeling some of Bart Ross's numbers are going to drop but he'll still be at the very least a decent receiver.

[Guest]

How I see it vs how you see it:

1(11) Grant Giefeke WR 36/53
Me: 36/53

2(15) Kenneth Riley WLB 33/61
Me: 32/61

3(14) Timothy Batchelor G 27/64
Me: 27/64

4(13) J.T. Sandage C 21/49
Me: 22/49

5(12) Mike Clements QB 8/42
Me: 8/42

6(11) Steven Graham DT 20/27
Me: 20/27

7(15) Freddie Anderson S 23/49
Me: 23/49

Ok, now let me explain how this works in general. You check how the player looks on your roster vs how another team see him. If he has a better future rating when looked at on your roster, he is going to drop at TC. If he has a worse rating when looked at on your roster, he is going to go up post TC.

If the future rating is the same... well, you cannot say too much. Usually he will stay about where he is, though.

This method is not 100% precise and volatility can play a role. But if there is a big difference, it is usually pretty conclusive (again, with the volatility exception).

I also like to see guys with high current ratings vs their % developed. So even though you see Ross as 73 future and I see him as 74, I am not overly worried because of his 44 current. Now, I am not sure if there is validity to my thought process here, but it gives me something to be positive about. ;-)

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I will do Anchorage next:

1.28 - WILB Norbert Daigle (41/67)
Me: 40/66

2.29 - TE Subby Franklin (30/41)
Me: 31/43 - nice.

3.28 - CB Terry Castellanos (21/48)
Me: 21/46 - you may not want to hold your breath on this pick

4.29 - C Conrad Olds (29/68)
Me: 28/67

5.28 - RB Alfred Campbell (30/48)
Me: 29/46

6.29 - P Teddy Curtis (38/52)
Me: 37/50

7.28 - DT Oscar Grosz (14/27)
Me: 14/30. I would suggest not releasing him. Major boom coming here if the 63 volatility does not bite.

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Jughead - I missed you because yours was on the previous page. I did not want to leave you out. ;-)

1.19 - S Edgar Stone (41/57)
Me: 42/58

1.32 - C Donovan Mark(37/76)
Me: 38/77 - I wanted him, by the way.

2.32 - RB Norbert Rodgers (38/62)
Me: 38/61

3.32 - QB Nicky Fortenberry (14/34)
Me: 14/34

4.16 - WR James Beaty (19/33)
Me: 19/31. Sorry.

4.32 - S D.J. Metcalf (29/46)
Me: 28/45. I had the same inkling about him that you did. Looks like we were both wrong. I pulled him off my 4th round list in favor of RB Gerard, though.

5.32 - C Harvey Moss (24/47)
Me: 24/47


6.32 - DT Gus Bronson (20/49)
Me: 20/49

7.32 - TE Lamont Lake (16/43)
Me: 16/41

[Guest]

How I see it vs how you see it:



Ok, now let me explain how this works in general. You check how the player looks on your roster vs how another team see him. If he has a better future rating when looked at on your roster, he is going to drop at TC. If he has a worse rating when looked at on your roster, he is going to go up post TC.

If the future rating is the same... well, you cannot say too much. Usually he will stay about where he is, though.

This method is not 100% precise and volatility can play a role. But if there is a big difference, it is usually pretty conclusive (again, with the volatility exception).

I also like to see guys with high current ratings vs their % developed. So even though you see Ross as 73 future and I see him as 74, I am not overly worried because of his 44 current. Now, I am not sure if there is validity to my thought process here, but it gives me something to be positive about. ;-)

There is probably something to what you say, but wouldn't the differing abilities of team's scouts create some disparity in the ratings?

Regardless, thanks for posting your ratings for everyone, at the very least it is interesting to see what ratings other scouts are giving the players.

[Guest]

yup, interesting, kind of like the cut test. More draft discussion is always good. :D

[Guest]

There is probably something to what you say, but wouldn't the differing abilities of team's scouts create some disparity in the ratings?

I think that's why it is not 100% accurate. But on the whole it is a very, very effective barometer. Similar to the cut test, as Jughead says.

[Jake]

What's the cut test?

[Guest]

What's the cut test?

I think they're referring to when you cut someone and see that their rating is actually lower, but I'm not sure.

[Guest]

Check a player's ratings. Cut him*. Check his ratings in the FA pool. If they're higher, generally means he's the real deal/better than he looks. Don't know how accurate it is, but that's the gist.

* - obviously, don't upload this file. :)

[Guest]

What the hell - here are my ratings

1 - 9 Bart Ross WR - 44/74
-Holds his ratings with the cut test. I think he will drop at TC but not very much. Looks to be a very solid move.

1 - 27 Bubba Corbett - 26/53
-Goes up to 27/55 with the cut test. Another fantastic pick.

2 - 10 Harvey Borders - 23/40
-23/41 with the cut test. Maybe he will not boom as much as I thought but still a starter in the making.

2 - 27 Broderick Westbrook WR - 25/47
-Looks like my 1st mistake of the draft. Cut test shows 25/46. Maybe a 4th WR, we will see.

3 - 9 Phil Browning WR - 22/55
-Not sure what to make of him as cut test shows 22/54. Hopefully he can fit in as the team's 3rd WR.

4 - 10 Alonzo Gerard RB - 31/58
-Are you kidding me at the 4-10? He will drop in TC, cut test shows 30/57. But he looks to have what it takes to start in this league.

5 - 9 Winston Guest ILB - 14/28
-Cut test shows 15/29. He needs to grow a lot to impress me, though.

6 - 10 Lamar Shields C - 25/70
-Cut test shows 24/68. He is prime for a big drop at TC, like I expected. But let's say his real numbers are in the 50s. Still very good value in the 6th.

7 - 9 Billy Torres CB - 26/41
-Cut test shows 25/40. Not many corners on the team so I can't see him not making it. But his numbers look like he was picked in the 7th.

Overall, if things come out as projected I will be very, very happy with this draft.

[Guest]

By the way, best player in the draft: Charlie Ross. The guy is a beast. I saw some people talk about his avoid drops bar. I would bet money that it is masked and probably close to 100 when all is said and done.

That RB who went 1-1 is also a mega stud but WR trumps RB in FOF.

[Jake]

What the hell - here are my ratings

1 - 9 Bart Ross WR - 44/74
-Holds his ratings with the cut test. I think he will drop at TC but not very much. Looks to be a very solid move.

1 - 27 Bubba Corbett - 26/53
-Goes up to 27/55 with the cut test. Another fantastic pick.

2 - 10 Harvey Borders - 23/40
-23/41 with the cut test. Maybe he will not boom as much as I thought but still a starter in the making.

2 - 27 Broderick Westbrook WR - 25/47
-Looks like my 1st mistake of the draft. Cut test shows 25/46. Maybe a 4th WR, we will see.

3 - 9 Phil Browning WR - 22/55
-Not sure what to make of him as cut test shows 22/54. Hopefully he can fit in as the team's 3rd WR.

4 - 10 Alonzo Gerard RB - 31/58
-Are you kidding me at the 4-10? He will drop in TC, cut test shows 30/57. But he looks to have what it takes to start in this league.

5 - 9 Winston Guest ILB - 14/28
-Cut test shows 15/29. He needs to grow a lot to impress me, though.

6 - 10 Lamar Shields C - 25/70
-Cut test shows 24/68. He is prime for a big drop at TC, like I expected. But let's say his real numbers are in the 50s. Still very good value in the 6th.

7 - 9 Billy Torres CB - 26/41
-Cut test shows 25/40. Not many corners on the team so I can't see him not making it. But his numbers look like he was picked in the 7th.

Overall, if things come out as projected I will be very, very happy with this draft.

I tried moving back up to get Bubba. He is going to be an absolute beast.