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  • The Utah Bees Report

    Continued from here...

    --2020 Training Camp--

    Final cuts loom in Salt Lake City this week, as the Bees and new head coach Mike Tarr prepare to trim their roster from the 70 they took into training camp, to the 60 they'll be able to keep throughout the preseason.

    Some opening moves are already afoot. 4th-year guard Max Mills has been informed of his release by team officials. The once-promising 7th rounder was being groomed behind the scenes for two years, but suffered a serious quads injury that sidelined him for the last quarter of the 2018 season and landed him on IR the following year as well. Looks like the training staff are not projecting a confident return this year, and with the four other new faces at guard for Utah, it would have been a hell of an uphill climb.

    Another spot where Utah's making a transformation is at receiver. Longtime core backups Lonnie Doleman and Zach Owens are both off the team - the former released and the latter traded - and there are four new faces in this group as well, including two rookies. All eyes will be on Colin Fletcher, the ballyhooed Stanford star that Utah moved up eight spots in the first round to get. With Daluiso locked up to a longterm deal and a deal for Foley likely to come soon, it could be Al Poston, the last of the trifecta of valued core backups, that is the next casualty in this swift remake of 2nd-year-starter Randy Boone's toys. And rumors keep swirling that the Bees are not yet done making acquisitions here - whether in FA or in trade.

    Six-year starter and the second longest tenured player of the team, nose tackle Don Ilardi, is being shipped off to Kalispel, the second defensive starter in two years to receive such a fate. There he'll rejoin 4th-year linebacker Johnnie Higgs, who, MUCH TO MY CHAGRIN, TOMR1962, appears to have gone +9/+9 this camp to reach 62/62. WTF, I practically gave him away in that case.

    On the skill positions side, Utah is poised to pack as much punch as it has had since Quinteros and Viola last both took the field for the Bees. Darrell Boulware arrives from Gainesville and brings strength to a solid group that returns the dependable Leo Felts from the previous season, as well as Glen Plummer (two straight 100 yard, 7+ ypc games to finish the year in his only two starts), and the dynamic-but-not-yet-productive Ken Schacht.

    On the less glamorous front, tight end Nate Barlow finally steps out of everyone's shadow and will get the chance to win the starting job outright this preseason. The former 7th round pick backed up a lot of players, with Dennis Hawley being the latest - but now Hawley is out of the way, shipped off to Los Alamos, and Barlow can put the much-talked-about rapport with Boone that he developed last season to use. At fullback, four-year starter Sammie Clinton was a surprise pre-camp release (he's since found a home in Charlotte), and two rookies - 6th-round pick Kerry Duran and free agent K.C. Myers - will battle it out for the starting role.

    All told, the Bees have 10 rookies (9 draft picks, 1 UDFA) and 22 new FA signings (including 1 3rd-year man and 5 2nd-years) on this 70-man roster. Time will tell where the axe falls as we get ready for the preseason.
    Last edited by Aston; 08-02-2011, 12:43 AM.
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    Don't feel bad, Vang went -5/-5 for me. I'm fine with that as I have a fantastic backup at four of the five spots on my line.

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    • #3
      Oh, you know what, that explains where my other starting guard went. I had forgotten I dealt him and I was looking over my guards recently and thinking "Well, I only have one starter. Guess the other guy retired or something..." I hope one of the young guys can step up. Starting LG will be one of the more contested spots on the team.
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      • #4
        nice writeup

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        • #5
          Longtime safety Irving Braham and ex-Utah, ex-Washington, and now ex-Utah again receiver Myron Jarvis are the latest two cuts to be announced, as preseason dawns upon us.

          Both are a bit of a surprise; Braham was the team's longest-tenured player (2013). That honor now belongs singularly to right tackle Tyrus Hutton (2014).

          Jarvis was well-regarded by teammates in his second Utah go-around and a big-time locker room hit. However, with the Bees announcing the unexpected acquisition of yet another receiver, their third since the draft began, in ex-Portland Phantom Hunter Vandersommen, space became tight in that unit. With Jarvis's release, Utah keeps the receiver count at 7 heading into the preseason.

          The Bees are widely expected to announce the release of former Pearl Harbor cornerback and KR extraordinaire Winfred Ellison tomorrow.
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          • #6
            "Well, I only have one starter. Guess the other guy retired or something..."



            Also guilty.
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            • #7
              Checking in from Utah training camp...

              We're two games down this preseason, and the Bees are an unenthusiastic 0-2 so far. Here's the latest from first-year Head Coach Mike Tarr...

              How do you feel about the progress of your players this year?



              Randy Boone evades the rush from (77) Tito Terrell

              "It's been up and down. We have a ways to go, obviously. Randy, he's really what we are trying to build around on offense, but he's had his share of struggles. He's bounced back from that first preseason game and I thought he was very solid, very efficient this last one. We still think that light bulb has yet to really come on, though. When it does, I think he'll be lethal.

              "Elsewhere, we are just a really young team overall. There are a lot of core young players whose development can never be fast enough for our liking. Once the bullets start firing, they'll have to grow up fast."

              Everybody's talking about the Darrell Boulware signing. How does he fit into your plans at this time?


              Free agent acquisition (21) Darrell Boulware

              "Well, we really think he is a hell of a running back. A lot of Utah fans are comparing him to Quinn Hanson in his heyday - well, I don't know, I wasn't a coach here then. But Boulware's a powerful back with a solid build to take the pounding of a feature back, but he can also really hurt you with his speed.


              Rookie NT Lance Orbik has struggled so far in camp and practice

              "There are a couple good backs on the roster already, so I don't know that we'll ask him to carry the full load. But he's going to be a big part of the attack, which is why we signed him. Glen, obviously, showed some nice things at the end of last year with those hundred-yard games. Leo carried the load for this team last year, and the guys all look up to him. And Ken, he's got some real speed, hasn't he? We're just going through evaluations, and everyone's on a clean slate."

              Talk a little bit about the recent trades you've made.


              Hunter Vandersommen (83) makes a catch in his new Utah Bees outfit, with Blaine Johnston (43) and Kirk Marsh (44) defending

              "Certainly. Roster turnover is just part of the game, and we've had quite a bit at the WR spot. Zach Owens is a guy we thought the world of, but he just wanted a better opportunity to get featured. We aren't really the line-up-five-wide and sling it kind of team. Hunter (Vandersommen, WR) is a guy we really liked on film, and he's a young player we hope to watch develop, and help us down the road, if not this year. You can't have enough depth at this position, and with losing some core players at the position, it was important to solidify that area again, which I think Hunter does for us.

              "Now, with the injury to John Hernandez, we have six guys that we feel really good about. It's a good problem to have."


              Colin Fletcher (84) has been lighting up practices and exhibitions alike

              Utah has quite the logjam at a couple of positions - guard, end, receiver. Can you comment on the trade rumors swirling around Alvin Foley (WR), Henry Reiner (OG), and Tito Terrell (DE)?

              (Laughs) "You're talking about three of my starters! No, I don't have any comment on that."

              Thanks for your time, coach.

              "My pleasure." (off-camera:) effing reporters...

              --


              Rookie WR Richie Carlisle gets a warm welcome from the first-string defense - all of them


              Bookend DEs Robbie Kerr (71) and Tito Terrell (77) converge on Randy Boone for a light, slow-motion bear hug


              Boone sidesteps the corner blitz this time, which came courtesy of veteran Mitch Holloman (32)


              He's hot 'cause he's fly...


              The 2nd-string OL, left to right: Everett, Forbes, Owens, Fujimoto, Wagner
              Last edited by Aston; 08-06-2011, 06:04 PM.
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              • #8
                Very, very cool, Nutah.

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                • #9
                  He's hot 'cause he's fly...
                  But would he be fly on an airplane?
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                  • #10
                    No, of course. He'd be seated like any good kid with his seatbelt low and tight across the waist, sorta like JLo's jeans.

                    :)

                    Blockbuster trade

                    The biggest trade of the modern Bees era under GM Nutah has gone down. It is the third trade with rando's Camden Cutters, and the Bees have to hope it's the first one that yields any fruit of any kind.

                    In a shocker, highly touted defensive end Tito Terrell and his five years of service are off to the Cutters, who have dealt what sources say to be next year's first round pick in exchange. Terrell has been considered for years to be the best player on the Bees' defense, although Ian Subramanian's breakout 14.5 sack season changed that perception last year.

                    DE depth re-set

                    The Bees are reportedly shifting over 2nd-year end Robbie Kerr to the right side, where Terrell played. 12-year veteran Joseph Mallow returns, but is not expected to regain the starting job he lost last season to Kerr. For the other end spot, two newcomers from Denver - Lionel Cook and Kerry Surratt - are expected to compete with Walt Rushe, who is in his third year with the team. Rushe has the early edge, and was a productive backup in 2019.
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                    • #11
                      Just wanted to let you know Rico Dietz is available, I got myself a REAL backup quarterback this year. :)

                      NM - *I LIED*! Motor City signed him.

                      There's always room for a guy named Rico Dietz in this league.

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                      • #12
                        I saw that! He went +1 in the TC stage this year, even. It'd be funny if he made something of himself...I can't believe I picked him in the 2nd round.

                        Ouch on those two injuries to your tackles, by the way. Double ouch on that 3/6 rookie o.0

                        I'm in a bit of troubs right now. I NEED a couple more guys to get injured - otherwise I don't know how I'm going to make my cuts for the regular season. I only need to make five...but I can't find five guys that I can part with. Hopefully the next two preseason games bear fruit.
                        Last edited by Aston; 08-07-2011, 10:29 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nutah View Post
                          I saw that! He went +1 in the TC stage this year, even. It'd be funny if he made something of himself...I can't believe I picked him in the 2nd round.

                          Ouch on those two injuries to your tackles, by the way. Double ouch on that 3/6 rookie o.0

                          I'm in a bit of troubs right now. I NEED a couple more guys to get injured - otherwise I don't know how I'm going to make my cuts for the regular season. I only need to make five...but I can't find five guys that I can part with. Hopefully the next two preseason games bear fruit.
                          The rookie just made me laugh. The tackle injuries really hurt though. DEs are going to have fun against my team until Peterson is back.

                          You just need to draft more terrible players, like me. Then the cuts come naturally!

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                          • #14
                            As the Bees finish the preseason a pitiful 1-3, a look through the grapevine at the latest roster moves and rumors...

                            -RELEASED-
                            CB Mitch Holloman
                            ^ 10-year veteran and starter on the team since 2017. Bit of a shock, this one; Holloman has been nothing but productive, but is nearing the end of a commendable career.

                            -INFORMED OF THEIR RELEASE TODAY-
                            DT Josh Patter
                            ^preseason camp body and mentor for the young tackles

                            RB Ernie Tsang
                            ^hoping I would be able to sneak him onto IR, but it's too late for that

                            -RUMORED: ON THE BUBBLE-(4 cuts remaining)
                            RB Leo Felts
                            ^2019 leading rusher in Utah and mid-range starting RB in the league last year. Mentor and leader. Would be a shocking release for fans, of which he has many. Could he be 1-and-done for the Bees?

                            TE Cris Gaines
                            ^ST presence, affinity with Daluiso, and a solid backup to Nate Barlow, who has won the starting job. Could the Bees be thinking of keeping only two TEs?

                            C Travis Fuchs
                            ^Signed and released by Utah before his rookie camp way back in 2015, which proved to be a mistake. He went +6 and here his is, in his 6th season, up at 43/48 from a base 30 potential. Utah's brought him back to explore its options on the line, but it doesn't look like he'll make the transition to guard well. Could that be a deal-breaker?

                            LG Henry Reiner / RG Mo Fujimoto
                            ^ Reiner held steady (-0) in his rookie camp 5 seasons ago. Fuji went +4 from a lower starting point. Rumor is there's only one spot for the both of them. Will the Bees go with more developed, well-rounded and more seasoned (Reiner), or young and undeveloped run-blocking specialist with potential (Fuji)? Or find some way to keep both?

                            DE Joseph Mallow
                            ^Key FA acquisition from Charlotte in 2017, and a mentor on the team. Will Marshmallow's days in Utah be coming to an end? He performed well last year, and Utah has already blown up its DL cohesion enough.

                            DE Walt Rushe
                            ^Exceptional affinity with Luther Shepherd. Some solid skills, but not a long term option by the staff's evaluation. In a battle with Mallow for the last DE spot. Does Utah keep the mentor, or the cohesion guy?

                            SLB Cole Vinson
                            ^A good find in the 4th round, affinity, TE coverage, pass rush backup, and ST guy - all coming to an end bcause of the Bennie Austin find?

                            -Injured Reserve-
                            LT Zack Everett (Abdominal Strain). 2nd-year man has promising future as a backup, but not a lot of experience. A redshirt year for Utah is just what the doctor ordered, and it means Jesse Wagner's spot at right tackle is likely to be secure for another year.

                            -Position Battles-

                            NT: Billy Johns/Lance Orbik Likely to split time, but second-year Billy Johns appears to have the upper hand after a surprising battle against the ballyhooed 2nd-round pick. Orbik "has a long way to go" according to scouts.

                            LG: Henry Reiner/Bryce Forbes/Moe Palmer/ Still in much doubt. Rookie 4th rounder Forbes has been getting the most reps at this position. Veteran Palmer could be a stopgap option. Reiner is a fan favorite and has been the projected starter since his signing in the spring.

                            RB: Darrell Boulware/ Ken Schacht / Leo Felts Boulware's locked this down pretty good with his preseason. Felts looks to be well out of the picture.
                            Last edited by Aston; 08-10-2011, 04:44 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Big cuts in Utah...with 8 bubble players and 4 spots, I think I tossed around every possible combination before making my decisions. I surprised myself quite a bit, it wasn't exactly the plan....but nonetheless, the cuts were:

                              TE Cris Gaines, OG Henry Reiner, C Travis Fuchs, OLB Cole Vinson

                              Meaning the Bees go into the regular season with just two tight ends, and keep 4 RBs with Felts, and 5 defensive ends with both Rushe and Mallow. Felts was originally supposed to go instead of Vinson, and Mallow or Rushe instead of Gaines...but I'm happiest with the gameday 46 with the roster I have now. I just hope choosing to part ways with Reiner and keep Fujimoto doesn't hurt me too much, this year or long term.

                              These Bees are ready to rock!
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