UTA30-for-30

[tomr1962]

Now you get to knock me out of the playoff chase...........

[Aston]

Get ready for the high-flying Scott Syron air show!

[Aston]

The Utah Receiving Corps, 2030

This is a unit that has been juggled around quite a bit, in this the first time since 2017 that the Bees have fielded a group without Alvin Foley leading the way.

Ray Mansker was once considered his successor, but his own age decline has relegated him to third-string status — a big-play presence on the field when the Bees need to go deep. In this role he's so far held off Shane Littlefield, a 6th-year man who's posted impressive numbers in very limited duty each of his three years in Utah - 10.14, 10.47, and 9.41 YPT.

While Hansen, Mansker, and Littlefield are on the field in 3WR sets (with Mansker working from the slot), it's the split end position that has been the object of a fierce competition in recent weeks.

Early in the season, Chester Haddix emerged as a reliable target of Roderick Sikkenga, posting the team's best YPA numbers. Since Boone's return, however, Haddix has fallen off considerably, and in the final stretch was unceremoniously benched way, way down. Catapulting up in his place, 14-year veteran Vinny Ireson, in his first year on the team.

Boone will be working with two first-year faces in the first playoff game, in Ireson and fullback Bennie Pryor. Hopefully the lack of familiarity won't be a great burden as we prepare to face Memphis.

[Aston]

2030 MVPs

Offense: TE Edwin Blades
Takes over as starter early in the year and catches 56 passes on 73 targets for 761 yards - 10.42 YPT - and 6 scores. Adds 237 yards (14.81 YPT) and 6 more TDs in the four game playoff run. Blades now features prominently in the Utah passing game, completing the trio headed by Boone and 2nd-year receiver Bob Hansen.

Defense: FS Wally Burgess.
Wally World picked up the slack in an aging secondary by doing what CB Quinn Robinette used to: record more defenses than catches allowed (16/12) in 311 pass plays. Burgess missed some time in the regular season but had over 90 PD% in both the regular and postseason. Also won Stevens Cup MVP with his 3 picks in the bowl game.

Special Teams K Darryl Blakely.
We continue to have dynamic kick and punt returners, but Blakely's 51-for-61 effort on FGs this year was superlative. Including 12/18 from beyond 50. Also a monster on kickoffs.

[Aston]

Ticket price notes:

(stable)
70
120
145
155
550
(lux)275K (500K seems too high, while 250 to 275 still produced suite revenue increase)

(experimental -- what Gainesville has this year)
110
170
210
250
620
(lux)370K

[Ozias]

Ticket price notes:

(stable)
70
120
145
155
550
(lux)275K (500K seems too high, while 250 to 275 still produced suite revenue increase)

(experimental -- what Gainesville has this year)
110
170
210
250
620
(lux)370K

You're not supposed to give away my secrets.

[Aston]

Haha! Well, I've decided that looking at attendance and ticket prices isn't the way to go (attendance numbers seem to be purely cosmetic and not determinant of revenue) so I just looked around to see who had found the best numbers.

In lieu of experimenting I'm just going to copy GAI and see how far that gets me :P

[Guest]

I am monitoring this experiment.

[Ozias]

I'm not sure I'd call my prices "experimental" though.

$616,870,000 in revenue for a 5-11 team is pretty darn good.

That was also the 2nd highest revenue, Columbus has the best revenue with 665,600,000, but they were 11-5.

I'm not sure how much winning has to do with it, but I'd guess it has something to do with the fans loyalty.

If you look at attendance, since 2024 Columbus has been first, and I have been 2nd. Columbus was dead last in attendance in 2018, and then they climbed the ladder, and since 2022 they have had the highest attendance.

[Aston]

Haha! For me, they are. Who knows how this all works with different cities. Definitely seems like you've nailed it.

I picked GAI since you were doing by far the best. I maxed out the luxury boxes but I was still getting my butt kicked at 250K, 275K, and 500K. I'm hoping 370 is going to yield different results and that the Salt Lake population isn't just hopeless. CLB is at 500K but I don't think they're doing as well as GAI with their suites. Still much better than Utah at 500K though.

The other prices are substantially higher than me. It seems generally like there's more room to raise prices to increase revenue than one would think.

[Ozias]

For where your at




You can see by the screen shot, you're maxed out in the Upper Deck and Mezzanine, and almost maxed out every where else, except Luxury boxes.

So you can raise the prices in all spots, but I'd lower Luxury boxes to get more butts in those seats.

I don't know how high you can raise prices before fans don't show up....meaning if you are charging $70 and jump to $110, I don't know if that big of a jump is too much from one season to the next.

[Ozias]

Utah's


Columbus'


Gainsville's



I do have quite a bit more Luxury boxes sold. Didn't realize it until I took a look at the 3 of our teams. Columbus could completely sell out if his Luxury Boxes were cheaper than $500K

[Aston]

I used to try to look at attendance and do calculations, but clearly the math doesn't work that way exactly. At least, you can't multiply seats filled by $ to get revenue, and sometimes you can have something that mathematically should result in less revenue but gets you more.

So the *only* thing I'm looking at now is the Income Statement. For example, suite revenue noticeably declined when I moved from 275K to 500K, but when I moved from 250 to 275 is increased.

[Ozias]

So the *only* thing I'm looking at now is the Income Statement. For example, suite revenue noticeably declined when I moved from 275K to 500K, but when I moved from 250 to 275 is increased.

I'd bet that has to do with the fan difference in your luxury boxes from one year to the next. You lost fans at that high of a price, and they came back when you lowered it.

You sold 3,100 @ 500 and got 1,550,000

I sold 5,600 @ 370 and got 2,072,000

So you're better off lowering those prices to get more fans in those seats.

If you can sell 4,000 @ 370 you'd get 1,480,000, which isn't as much, but I wouldn't be surprised to see you sell more than 4,000 at that price.

You'd need to sell 4,189 @ 370 to get your 1,550,000 so it's something that could be done. I guess it's something we will find out this coming year, if that's the price you're going to settle on.

[Aston]

You'd need to sell 4,189 @ 370 to get your 1,550,000 so it's something that could be done. I guess it's something we will find out this coming year, if that's the price you're going to settle on.

Heh, that's my point, I guess. This kind of math doesn't seem to really correspond to anything. For starters, it's 370K, so those revenues are off by a factor of 3, which pushes suite revenue into the billions calculated this way. The numbers don't get any closer to what you see if you calculate the 'tickets sold' as a percentage of the luxury boxes you have.

So these numbers.....don't have any connection to in game mechanics, IMO. They're just eye candy.

So I think the easier way to look at it is: play around with prices and see what the income statement says.