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  • Carlos
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    I'm glad Wilkinson figured it out again after Denver. He looked to be declining but really he just hated me.

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  • Pat
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    Brad will be pleased.

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  • PaulC
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    These must be BLB records... by a lot I'd think...

    C.J. Wilkinson reached base 21 times in a row (BTW, the MLB record is 17), including 10 straight ABs with a hit (BTW, the MLB record is 12)

    Saturday April 23rd (Start of streak)
    3rd inning Fly out
    5th inning Double
    8th inning Single
    9th inning Single
    Sunday April 24th (Did not play)
    Monday April 25th (Pinch hit)
    9th inning Single
    Tuesday April 26th (Moved to lead off)
    1st inning Single
    3rd inning Single
    4th inning Single
    7th inning Double
    9th inning Single
    Wednesday April 27th
    1st inning Single
    3rd inning Base on Balls
    4th inning Double
    6th inning Base on Balls
    8th inning Intentional Base on Balls
    9th inning Single
    Thursday April 28th (Off day)
    Friday April 29th
    1st inning Single
    3rd inning Single
    5th inning Single
    7th inning Base on Balls
    9th inning Single
    Saturday April 30th
    1st inning Single
    3rd inning Ground out

    Watching the game scores live, I had to double check when it was over, but this is a ridiculous streak!! The two games that bookended the streak actually saw him go 7 for 10.

    This is a six game stretch of 20 for 23 and 4 walks for a BA of 0.870 and on OBP of ).889!! Wow!

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  • Andrew
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    Originally posted by BradZ View Post
    Five teams have never been the victim of a No-hitter, one of which is the expansion KC team. Who are the other 4?
    KC was no hit this week by Jaden Steen of Pawtucket.

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  • Delandis
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    I kind of thought DVS, but I wasn't sure if you broke it up. Plus I thought VA was too terrible during the Andrew days to not have had a no hitter against them.

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  • BradZ
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    Originally posted by Delandis View Post
    I'm going to go with Baltimore, Pawtucket, Maine, and Batavia.
    Originally posted by Pat View Post
    I'll go Pitt, Maine, Baltimore, Batavia
    Batavia and Pittsburgh = yes from your combined lists.

    Maine has been No-hit 5 times. Baltimore 4 times, Pawtucket 3 times.

    I'll go ahead and give you another, since I sort of cheated on it - I treated Death Valley separately from Virginia. Virginia had 1 no-no tossed against them back in 1980.

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  • Z
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    Originally posted by PaulC View Post

    The average hall pitcher has 204 wins, 2700 Ks, and 77 WAR.
    That's exactly the problem. It's way too high of a standard.

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  • Carlos
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    Originally posted by PaulC

    Being new to the league, I just think the case for hall of fame pitchers that I didn't 'get to see play' is really underwhelming when you look at their stat page. Keifer is a good example. Upon quickly looking, only three years with 15 wins (I get bad teams, and not the most important stat), only 3-4 in the playoffs, and quite a few years that were just meh. The average hall pitcher has 204 wins, 2700 Ks, and 77 WAR.

    Looking deeper, he had a solid WHIP, 60 career WAR, and a 129 ERA+, so he looks Hall of Fameish... I just think to newer people, it just doesn't seem overtly obvious. I also think, that like the real hall, some voters have extremely high standards for starting pitchers and since so many owners use six man rotations, a tonne of relievers (13 CG) the major counting stats never really look that impressive. Which is the same thing the real hall will run into in the future with starting pitchers.
    This is the issue. The average starter in the Hall is too high. When you only have 5 guys that dominated it pushes the average up which hurts guys that were also dominant in the league but not at the level of the ones in.

    Too many MLB comparisons. But let's take the MLB. Imagine if the Hall was only Walter Johnson, Cy Young and three other pitchers. Koufax never gets in and there isn't a real life sensible soul who thinks he was fame-ish. How does Randy Johnson get In? Pedro is the equivalent of any pitcher in our league with a great 10 years but only 4 absolutely disgusting seasons before injury. Pedro doesn't get into our Hall, I would presume.

    Too many voters think guys need 250 wins or 5 Pale Ales.

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  • umd
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    Chuck Lindsey.

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  • PaulC
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    Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post

    He's not in because people don't vote for starting pitchers in this league. They'd rather vote for the generic closers.
    Your second point is bang on... Way too many closers, and a few more coming up in the next few years... based on a meaningless save statistic for the most part.

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  • PaulC
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    Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post

    He's not in because people don't vote for starting pitchers in this league. They'd rather vote for the generic closers.
    Being new to the league, I just think the case for hall of fame pitchers that I didn't 'get to see play' is really underwhelming when you look at their stat page. Keifer is a good example. Upon quickly looking, only three years with 15 wins (I get bad teams, and not the most important stat), only 3-4 in the playoffs, and quite a few years that were just meh. The average hall pitcher has 204 wins, 2700 Ks, and 77 WAR.

    Looking deeper, he had a solid WHIP, 60 career WAR, and a 129 ERA+, so he looks Hall of Fameish... I just think to newer people, it just doesn't seem overtly obvious. I also think, that like the real hall, some voters have extremely high standards for starting pitchers and since so many owners use six man rotations, a tonne of relievers (13 CG) the major counting stats never really look that impressive. Which is the same thing the real hall will run into in the future with starting pitchers.

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  • Pat
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    Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post

    He's not in because people don't vote for starting pitchers in this league. They'd rather vote for the generic closers.
    The real Hall of Fames have flaws as well.

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  • Z
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    Originally posted by Carlos View Post
    He's not in because we got dummies here.

    !!!!

    No but I think he's not in because he didn't have the record which is essentially the same as bad franchise in a division with a cheater.

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    He's not in because people don't vote for starting pitchers in this league. They'd rather vote for the generic closers.

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  • Carlos
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    He's not in because we got dummies here.

    !!!!

    No but I think he's not in because he didn't have the record which is essentially the same as bad franchise in a division with a cheater.

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  • Delandis
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    Originally posted by TheLetterZ

    Man, Keifer was so good. He really should be in the Hall.
    Beat me to it.

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