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  • #16
    It is your league, though, Brad You are the commish and I think it's fine to be a benevolent dictator. And you are the one who has to do the enforcing. Would probably be confusing to change anymore this FA, but if the next one comes around and you feel like something makes more sense, as long as it's reasonable, I'm sure we would follow.
    Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jughead Spock View Post
      As a thought, it might be worth a mass email to ownership to remind them of this stage. Providing Brad is privvy to email addresses.
      I don't necessarily have access to everyone's email address, but for the franchise tag | summer league | ticket price SIM we had 29 of a possible 31 teams submit an export. 1 of the 2 teams that didn't submit for that stage has checked in on the unauthorized Roll Call thread. The other owner hasn't been on the boards since early November so I'm close to opening that franchise up and placing them temporarily on AI control.
      Philly Freedom
      Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
      Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
      Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
      IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
      Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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      • #18
        Yeah, that was me, some problems with the internet, changing 3Mb to 50Mb and I missed that export. But all is ok now.
        Hartford Dragons

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Edirash View Post
          Yeah, that was me, some problems with the internet, changing 3Mb to 50Mb and I missed that export. But all is ok now.
          Good to hear, thanks!
          Philly Freedom
          Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
          Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
          Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
          IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
          Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Clay View Post
            That's a ridiculous rule.

            I don't understand how this is an improvement.
            and to echo this i HAVE to offer Tom skeen a 3 year deal, the 13th yeah 38 year old qb a 3 year contract so when he retires next year ive got 2 years worth of dead cap space instead of 1.

            again i agree the 3 year rule is easier, nobody can argue that, just doesnt make too much sense.

            and as far as being easier to enforce i can only recall 1 infraction in the 7 seasons ive been here

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            • #21
              Players keep getting paid when they retire? Daaaamn, I gotta get myself a job in this league!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by FoosballWizard View Post
                Players keep getting paid when they retire? Daaaamn, I gotta get myself a job in this league!
                yeup its "dead money" in your salary cap

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by strickzilla View Post
                  yeup its "dead money" in your salary cap
                  Man, I'm never signing an old player again. haha

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                  • #24
                    only the bonus. but yeah, it's one thing that is having me hold off on some of the older players in FA. Also a couple other guys should check their offers for 2 or 1 year deals.

                    Here's a question, Columbus signed a player to a 2-year deal but they are on AI control now. ...?
                    Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Nutah View Post
                      only the bonus. but yeah, it's one thing that is having me hold off on some of the older players in FA. Also a couple other guys should check their offers for 2 or 1 year deals.

                      Here's a question, Columbus signed a player to a 2-year deal but they are on AI control now. ...?
                      I've got a couple one year deals out that I have to fix. I assume if I withdraw the offer they'll get pissed off at me and not sign later? Don't really want to pay them extra $$$. :(

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                      • #26
                        Humm I don't know. I don't think that is the case, I think that's only sometimes when you release a guy.
                        Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by strickzilla View Post
                          and to echo this i HAVE to offer Tom skeen a 3 year deal, the 13th yeah 38 year old qb a 3 year contract so when he retires next year ive got 2 years worth of dead cap space instead of 1.

                          again i agree the 3 year rule is easier, nobody can argue that, just doesnt make too much sense.

                          and as far as being easier to enforce i can only recall 1 infraction in the 7 seasons ive been here
                          1, you're the only one that has offered Skeen anything. That will be part of the new FA rule, people aren't going to be nearly as attracted to an old 40-something rated QB. As in the NFL, teams aren't waiting for day 1 to sign that mid-30s journeyman QB.

                          2, this is the unfortunate side of the sudden onset of the rule, but it emphasizes the idea that you should reneg guys, esp. the older ones, before FA hits. But that leads to

                          3, Skeen is disgruntled with you (how DARE you take his gruntle), so you're gonna have to pay through the nose in any case. Probably why you didn't reneg him in the first place, I imagine.

                          As for retirees, it's the same as cutting a player. A team is not on the hook for their remaining salary, but the remaining cap is accelerated against the current year. i.e., Skeen signs for a contract of 2/3/4, with a 6 million bonus. If he retires after the first year, the team would not be on the hook for the 3 million or the 4 million in salary, but they would 'pay' the remaining 4 million in bonus immediately. So instead of paying 4/5/6, the team would pay 4/4/0. Not exactly devastating. If someone throws out a foolish bonus-heavy contract for a near-retiring player, well...

                          And correct me if I'm wrong, but both of these rules only address the length of the contract, not the amounts. So you may be able to get away with backloading the hell out of it (in salary, not bonus). It's a little gamey, but hey, the NFL does it all the time too. I seem to remember that the game engine is pretty aware of that stuff anyway. First year + bonus trumps a whole lot of backloading.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by FoosballWizard View Post
                            I've got a couple one year deals out that I have to fix. I assume if I withdraw the offer they'll get pissed off at me and not sign later? Don't really want to pay them extra $$$. :(
                            Withdrawing the offer doesn't affect their attitude.

                            But you don't have to withdraw, just re-do the offer and re-submit.

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                            • #29
                              actually skeen is asking for much LESS when i tried to reneg earlier he wantes 3 years 30 mil now hes only asking for 2 mil a year

                              and yes im the only one offering him anything id rather do it now then get into a bidding war later on. all im saying is that the 3 year rule doesnt make sense, it doesnt help things.

                              in this example i had 2 choices reneg skeen for 3 yrs 30 mil paying a bouns of about 4 mil a year or i could have resigned him for 2 years for 7 mil total, but because of the rule im now on the hook for another year granted it only 2 or 3 mil more and ive got the cap room, its just 1 example of the 3 year rule not helping

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