2041 Draft Discussion

[IrishGuy65]

PS - Im terrible at inserting stuff like this. Sorry for the small size :(

[Guest]

Even before the combine change, I had set up a draft file. I put 1,000 WRs in there, all the same ratings (about 80/80). Some ratings I can't fix but I did fix getting the important ones like getting downfield, big play, etc.

So the low end of the combines was as follows:

4.72 dash
12 sol
8 strength
7.45 agility
30 pspec

If you don't say WTF to that, then you don't realize the implications. Yes, a stud WR can have green combines. And I am not talking bomber "studs" here.

[Delandis]

Even before the combine change, I had set up a draft file. I put 1,000 WRs in there, all the same ratings (about 80/80). Some ratings I can't fix but I did fix getting the important ones like getting downfield, big play, etc.



So the low end of the combines was as follows:



4.72 dash

12 sol

8 strength

7.45 agility

30 pspec



If you don't say WTF to that, then you don't realize the implications. Yes, a stud WR can have green combines. And I am not talking bomber "studs" here.

Good to see.

[Guest]

Some other observations about this class in general. But before that: I think it is important to keep in mind that I have pretty insane scouts. And yes scouts are important - with these insane scouts I always see the bars on these studs as studly. I might see them as about 60 rated in the worst case as opposed to 80 and this is a rare case.

-The lowest adjusted grade was 4.9. Again, this is likely inflated by the bars with the poor combines bringing it down.
-The guy with the lowest adjusted grade had combines of 4.6, 15, 11, 7.16, 48
-A decent number skip the combine.
-The vast majority have blue combines or better. A good number have what you would normally see with can't miss studs: nice reds across the board.
-The guys with green combines are less prevalent. None of them had greens across the board. Only 6 out of 1000 had green dash, for example.

This is the important point for me and see if you can see where I am going with it:

-The red combine guys tended to have reds across the board.
-The blue combine guys tended to have blues across the board
-The black combine guys tended to have blacks

Remember they are all the same player and the important bars are exactly the same.

[Guest]

Even before the combine change, I had set up a draft file. I put 1,000 WRs in there, all the same ratings (about 80/80). Some ratings I can't fix but I did fix getting the important ones like getting downfield, big play, etc.

So the low end of the combines was as follows:

4.72 dash
12 sol
8 strength
7.45 agility
30 pspec

If you don't say WTF to that, then you don't realize the implications. Yes, a stud WR can have green combines. And I am not talking bomber "studs" here.

Thanks for the LOVE Chuck! As always.

[Aston]

So, a "spot violation" -- one or two randomly bad combines on a player who should have had better ones -- is more likely than an entire "bad day at the office" where a stud player gets a die roll such that he's got greens everywhere?

[Guest]

PS - Im terrible at inserting stuff like this. Sorry for the small size :(

www.imgur.com for the win

[Guest]

Even before the combine change, I had set up a draft file. I put 1,000 WRs in there, all the same ratings (about 80/80). Some ratings I can't fix but I did fix getting the important ones like getting downfield, big play, etc.

So the low end of the combines was as follows:

4.72 dash
12 sol
8 strength
7.45 agility
30 pspec

If you don't say WTF to that, then you don't realize the implications. Yes, a stud WR can have green combines. And I am not talking bomber "studs" here.

Damn, nice work, Chuck! Thanks for sharing!

-One of the Guys Not Smart Enough to Do This Stuff

[RyanG]

Some other observations about this class in general. But before that: I think it is important to keep in mind that I have pretty insane scouts. And yes scouts are important - with these insane scouts I always see the bars on these studs as studly. I might see them as about 60 rated in the worst case as opposed to 80 and this is a rare case.

-The lowest adjusted grade was 4.9. Again, this is likely inflated by the bars with the poor combines bringing it down.
-The guy with the lowest adjusted grade had combines of 4.6, 15, 11, 7.16, 48
-A decent number skip the combine.
-The vast majority have blue combines or better. A good number have what you would normally see with can't miss studs: nice reds across the board.
-The guys with green combines are less prevalent. None of them had greens across the board. Only 6 out of 1000 had green dash, for example.

This is the important point for me and see if you can see where I am going with it:

-The red combine guys tended to have reds across the board.
-The blue combine guys tended to have blues across the board
-The black combine guys tended to have blacks

Remember they are all the same player and the important bars are exactly the same.

I'm pretty new to the game, so I'm trying my best to follow here. What you are saying is that if a guy has some blue and some black, he is unlikely to be a good player? Or anyone with a green? And have you run this multiple times, or just one draft is your data?

Also, can someone explain to me how to set up a draft like this, so I could do my own testing? Thanks!

[macroguru20]

Here is my scout of Wojdylo for you macro

Thank you!

[Guest]

I'm pretty new to the game, so I'm trying my best to follow here.

I am saying that if all ratings are equal across the board, you will get the about the same distribution of combines. Again, it is an approximation but for example with equal ratings simming 1,000 times you don't see a red combine mixed with a green combine (I don't even think you see a red mixed with a black). Sometimes red will mix with blue but less often.

What do I take from that? Static bars as a draft indicator are not dead by a long shot. Discuss amongst yourself.

Also, can someone explain to me how to set up a draft like this, so I could do my own testing? Thanks!

I don't want to be a dick but it took me a full night to figure this out on FOF7. It is not something I can explain easily... One thing is I researched it and you don't need to install the college years anymore, which is a big plus.

[Guest]

If you want to go nuts, I found the draft file app in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Front Office Football Seven

I do not know if it will be in the same directory as you. There is a draftfile help document I found in there and that is how I figured it out.

[Aston]

Chuck, if you don't need TCY anymore, did you choose 80/80 for some reason? That sounds like the old issue where you'd enter 625 but the ratings would come out 78/78.

[Guest]

The 80/80 is an approximation. I think I set it to 600 and their return skills are 0.

I also have a 60/60 WR class but didn't try it yet on the new combines.

[RyanG]

thenewchuckd, no problem. If you can't explain it, you don't have to apologize.

We're good.

I'll figure it out, hopefully.