2021 Draft Class - Pre Draft Discussions

[Jake]

Not sure where I'm going to go at 13, but I think there'll be plenty of talent there. Glad to be back, forgot how much I enjoyed the draft.

[marvelous]

We sit at 14 so I can tell I'm already about to get screwed over. At least 13 times before I pick.

[kingfc22]

Cary Money's career won't even sniff Nori's jockstrap.

[tomr1962]

Can't wait for Nori to die............errr retire

[kingfc22]

Can't wait for Nori to die............errr retire

[mike17]

The more I look at it, the more I like Money. While Oglethorpe is a sure thing, what I covet most in QBs is Sole score and position drill. Money knocks those both out of the park. I'm sure I'll flip between them a few more times before the draft starts rolling next week.

[Aston]

Someone mentioned that the only thing about shorter QBs is more interception problems. But Oglethorpe looks good there (I didn't interview). If that's the case, that makes things a lot more interesting between them...because it doesn't look like Oglethorpe's bars are going to go down. Hm.

Strick, trade down!

[Guest]

LOL this is manning vs leaf.

and for whaty its worth im a big believer in the play to win stat, ive noticed *anecdotially* that guys with a high rating tend to perform better (than thier bars) would indicate.

i dont think theres a wrong move here just a matter or preference Money is a project and he will take a while for his bars to come up (think aaron rodgers) or ogre-thorpe who looks to be ready to go out of the box depending on how much green there is

they are both pretty dumb 9 and 8 formations respectively so both should be ok with ints as my esteemed division rival mentioned. however as mike pointed out Money has 4 bars zeroed out, short and screen, that sucks for me cause thats my game read defense, no big deal just means morrision will get a million targets LOL but 3rd down passing is what worries me. cause IIRC that bar is not associated with any combine # so its a crapshoot


and as malcpow said
"It bears repeating, sense rush is a great indicator. It's very reassuring to see a high sense rush bar. Be skeptical of guys with a sense rush bar way out of whack with the rest of their bars"

[Guest]

I like guys that play to lose, like the Jets and Eagles.

[mike17]

Cary Money's career won't even sniff Nori's jockstrap.

Challenge Accepted.

I will take Cary Money and ensure he breaks every record Jay Nori ever thought of.

[Aston]

Neither QB's sense rush bar is out of whack with where they are supposed to be.

I am warming up to Oglethorpe here (not sure why I am saying any of this, I won't get either obviously) but Money's PSPEC still knocks it out of the park for me.

[Guest]

ok then maybe i have a weird definition of out of whack. i take it to mean he has mostly nothing

there are 14 bars to measure and only 4 of the 14 are close to his sens rush to me that seems "out of whack"

for anoterh example look at this guy http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/osfl...p?player_id=38

with davidson his sense rush is super low compaired to the rest of his bars altho its an even split 7 and 7. and in davidsons case the low bench explains the small long passing bar but not the big deep passing so one could reason that bar is false??

[Aston]

Yeah his is out of whack I guess. But Money is a mask so that's different. It's like Tubbs or Boone or those guys, their SR bar being so high wasn't out of whack either, not in a bad way.

[Guest]

yeah but none of thos guys were this extreme i mean tubbs still had decent bars just not amazingly awesome but there was SOMETHING there i mean i had him in my qeue in my 1st draft, if i had a 2nd round pick that year i woudl have had tubbs. so i could look at tubbs not knowing a thing abotu masking ect (my scout had him a VU")and go "thats a good qb" granted i had no clue what a beast he was, but you cant really say that about money.

the best part of all this is i REALLY dont have to make a choice it will be made for me. if money goes 1st then rico is solid he may not end up 80/80 but ill bemost happy with 60/60ish if he holds his bars if rico goes 1st then i go money and pray or i could go with the safe pick Frysinger move him to wr and let the good times roll there

[nelmsm]

After reading all this I'm beginning to think I should quit pulling names out of a hat.