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  • #61
    Originally posted by Coldheat007 View Post
    So in another league a DE is on the block.

    LDE

    Run D – 61
    PR – 84
    PRS – 90
    PD – 71
    PH -70
    EN – 70

    2nd year player that went 1.2 is currently sitting a 55/74 and has a Volatility of 74
    What is the approximate average of your staffs' scouting bar? This will tell you how close the bars you see on this guy are to being real.

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    • #62
      He wants to know if he needs to make everything public or if he can keep trades behind the scenes until they get posted. Something like that.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by garion333 View Post
        He wants to know if he needs to make everything public or if he can keep trades behind the scenes until they get posted. Something like that.
        If you want the best return put a guy on the trade block.

        Nothing is official until a trade is posted and confirmed.

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        • #64
          I think maybe some good rules of thumb for newer players, before they get a feel for the MP landscape in FOF:

          -- If a player is a stud (let's say, 55-60+ for non-QBs, 45-50+ for QBs), regardless of age, simply do not trade him. For anything. Just enjoy him.

          -- Do not part with a future 1st, or 2nd, or even 3rd round pick for anything, *especially* a current draft pick, *especially* if that pick belongs to your own team.

          I don't think it would have been too crazy for that WR to go for 3 1sts and a 2nd. Even then, that could be, e.g, 1.27, 1.23, 1.31, 2.31 across three years. A vet might get two, three, or four "solid" players out of this -- but they'd get that already from their own picks, so what's the added value? At this price point it starts to hurt the team paying (which it should), but it's not clearly a huge bonanza for the team receiving, either.*

          You'll somewhat break even -- at least not get taken for a ride! -- keeping your own picks and your own players. Eventually you'll get a handle on things, see what sorts of things happen, and what people say about it.

          High stakes trading is a dangerous, dangerous game. I've made some awful ones, myself. I gave up a future 1 for an 80/80 DT to stay in the bowl hunt. He ended up retiring after just three seasons, during which time I had a lot of DL talent anyway. The 1st I lost ended up being 1.22; at 1.23, division rival Bomber takes a 60+ WR with 100 BPR who somehow slid all the way down but would never have made it past me. Arguably, the DT did keep me in the playoffs these years, but talk about a double whammy.

          *(Typically, when I see a veteran score a stockpile like this, they go hunting for another aggressive trade rather than sit back and make the picks. I.e, they'll try to find someone to give them a top 5 draft pick and get a QB, or they'll find someone who gets wowed by sheer volume enough to part with a young 70/70 QB. Sort of a game of hot potato, IMO.)
          Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Nemesis View Post
            Maybe if you're chuck.
            Yeah, no. Unless you're QB hunting, then top 10 picks are almost gimmees with the 39 combine setting. I'd actually go so far as to say that the top of the draft is easier with 39 because you can basically ignore combines and take the guys who have all the big bars. The ignoring combines bit is the part people seem to have some trouble with as old habits die hard.

            Have you taken over a team or what?

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            • #66
              I think Combines 39 doesn't make sense at all. What's the point of having them?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by garion333 View Post
                Yeah, no. Unless you're QB hunting, then top 10 picks are almost gimmees with the 39 combine setting. I'd actually go so far as to say that the top of the draft is easier with 39 because you can basically ignore combines and take the guys who have all the big bars. The ignoring combines bit is the part people seem to have some trouble with as old habits die hard.

                Have you taken over a team or what?
                Take a look at OLB Mitchell that Los Alamos just drafted. Just plain unlucky as far as I can see....

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Sharkn20 View Post
                  I think Combines 39 doesn't make sense at all. What's the point of having them?
                  They're still a data point, just a much less important one than in the past.

                  Originally posted by rush_27 View Post
                  Take a look at OLB Mitchell that Los Alamos just drafted. Just plain unlucky as far as I can see....
                  Yeah, that was volatility though, right? His bars were over basically all his combines. Looked safe (though Pee Fly would've been a better pick, eh?) until everything dropped.

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                  • #69
                    Talk me down from the edge. I am mailing it in at this point and my team is suffering from it. Should I quit or keep mailing it in?

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                    • #70
                      Mail it in.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Coldheat007 View Post
                        Ok I need to finally address the WR Lake issue.

                        I have a question for the vets. What is the Etiquette on private GM trades? I did read the rules but did not see any specifics so I assume this is just a mater of gamesmanship.

                        Again sorry for the noob mistake...
                        I been in this league 5 or 6 season Also played in another league few seasons. Personally I think trades and value all depends on who you are offering, who other players are looking for. then how much others are willing to pay. Kinda like a auction get 2-3 guys wanting a guy bad you good get a good return. The very next year someone else might have a even better player but no one is interested they might get a steal or person may be stuck keeping player. Thus if your in a league with players who are aggressive willing to pay for player they want vs league players not willing to pay a lot trades may not go down as often. Thus why I see this like a auction depends on who is at auction. What or who is offered. What do they see the value as. Let the auction begin.

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                        • #72
                          Nah, lately I just want to make trades and can't remember to do exports. I lost two guys to FA because of AI cuts the last two seasons and this last one hurts. Maybe when the new game comes out I will come back...

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                          • #73
                            I remember my first season in the league, there were 3 guys trying to swindle the 'new guy'. I didn't bite fortunately.

                            I dont know what to say good or bad etiquette is. I've seen bad trades after the player was put on the trade block too. Or a good trade and then people who made bad offers complaining in the end because they didn't get the player, even claiming they didn't know said player was on the block.

                            If I see a guy on another guys roster that I like, veteran or newbie, why can't I make him an offer and keep it private. That's what happens in the real world.

                            Basically, it doesn't seem to matter what trades happen or how, you can't please everyone.
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                            • #74
                              All other things being equal the weak are meat and the strong do eat.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Engelbert View Post
                                I remember my first season in the league, there were 3 guys trying to swindle the 'new guy'. I didn't bite fortunately.

                                I dont know what to say good or bad etiquette is. I've seen bad trades after the player was put on the trade block too. Or a good trade and then people who made bad offers complaining in the end because they didn't get the player, even claiming they didn't know said player was on the block.

                                If I see a guy on another guys roster that I like, veteran or newbie, why can't I make him an offer and keep it private. That's what happens in the real world.

                                Basically, it doesn't seem to matter what trades happen or how, you can't please everyone.

                                Seriously? That's pretty pathetic. Must've been Shark.

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